Pope is elected

[ski_resort_observer]

Was watching an interview with the GM CEO when CNBC broke off to the Vatican....like yesterday, confusion on whether the smoke was white or black. Italian radio reported that a pope was not elected today....about 15 minutes later...CNBC breaks back to the Vatican...bells are ringing, smoke still looks white...people are dancing in the street. A new pope has been elected. Who it is will be announced shortly.

It's Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger of Germany...Pope Benedict the 16th

i am not Catholic but I think this is way bigger then that.

 

[dmc]

i am not Catholic but I think this is way bigger then that.

I'm not Catholic... I am happy for my Catholic friends...

But I could care less... My Methodist upbringing goes agains a lot of the Catholic dogma...

Not that I disslike it... I just don't buy into it...

 

[dmc]

And the German guy gets elected!!!

I win $40 bucks!!!!

 

[ChileMass]

Yawn.......

I'm a fallen-away Catholic who couldn't care less.

American Catholicism and Christianity is so hypocritical and out of touch with 2005, it's a bad joke.

The US was based on the guiding principle of "keep your hands to yourself". We oughta just focus on that, IMHO.......

 

[thetrailboss]

And the German guy gets elected!!!

I win $40 bucks!!!!

My work buddies were hoping for a black pope.

 

[ski_resort_observer]

My interest is that it is a global event, effects history, bigger than the election of a US president.

I am sure in a few months it will mostly forgotten but it still is an important event.

 

[dmc]

My interest is that it is a global event, effects history, bigger than the election of a US president.

Not to me... He's a spiritual leader for another sect of Christianity.. He doesnt have his finger on the button to launch nukes...
JPII was cool cause he actually helped bring down communism.. But not every Pope is like that...

 

[ctenidae]

Stalin made the mistake of wanting to know how many divisions the Pope commanded.

 

[riverc0il]

My interest is that it is a global event, effects history, bigger than the election of a US president.

I am sure in a few months it will mostly forgotten but it still is an important event.

i mean no disrespect, but after the previous five years and quite a few other significant years in us presidential history, i can not fathom how the election of a pope is a bigger event than a US president. perhaps to those that follow that particular institutionalized spiritual devotion, but there are much bigger hands in the world imo.

perhaps that is just my perspective on the world, i notice when people do wrong rather than people trying to do right. maybe that says more about me than anything *shrug*

 

[ski_resort_observer]

Globally...I stand by my statement.

It goes without saying, I thought, that for any of us the election of the US president is more important.

 

[riverc0il]

given world events, i still think the US president has more global power and determines more events than the pope. for example, the pope was against the iraq war...

that said, i completely disagree with the US having that much power in the world and especially the fact that one person has that much sway. you can counter my statement with words of checks and balances, but these last three years certainly have thrown a sway into the system for better or worse.

 

[ski_resort_observer]

Absolutely, the US president has more global power than the pope, not the point I was making.

Surly you will agree that there are other measures for greatness than global power or ability to make war.

For many of the world's citizens the pope is very important while the US president is a mere photo stuck on the dart board.

 

[BeanoNYC]

I feel that the election of the pope is certainly a global event. Lets remember that there are over 1 billion practicing Catholics in the world. That being said, I think that it is impossible to gage the effect a new Pope has on history until either he has done something significant or when he eventually dies leaving no impact. Only time will tell if Pope Benedict XVI's election today will have an effect on history.

I do hope for some change in the church's doctine, but my guess is that this election will not make a big slash in the history books. Our newly elected pope was basically Pope John Paul II's right hand man. He has been the Church's "doctrinal watchdog" since 1981. This shows us that the leaders of the Catholic Church were looking to keep status quo.

Now, about his age. I'm not too sure what to make of that. One may think that the election of an old pope signifies that the Cardinals are not looking to keep the status quo for so long. What do you think?

I wish him good luck. I hope that if my assessment is wrong, his effect on history will , like his predecessor, have a good impact on the world.

 

[Max]

...and he's "anti-contraceptive-have-as-many-kids-as-you-can", "anti-gay marriage", anti-women in the clergy", etc. Just what the catholic church (and the world in general) needs, regression to the stone age.

I had better things to do than be on a smoking chimney watch.

Sorry...rant off...

 

[ctenidae]

After a long pope, the Cardinals often elect an interim Pope, who often makes some sweeping changes quickly. Then, when the next, more permanent Pope comes in, he can sort of pick and choose, and doesn't have to take the blame for things (as much as a Pope is truly held accountable, anyway). The one in, I think, the '50s waas only there for a few years, but he convened Vatican II, which made some major changes. Benedict may turn out to have an agenda, too, despite his former place as doctrinal watchdog. Familiarity breeds contempt, afterall. It should be interesting to see. For all we know, he could be planning a new Crusade...

 

[BeanoNYC]

...and he's "anti-contraceptive-have-as-many-kids-as-you-can", "anti-gay marriage", anti-women in the clergy", etc. Just what the catholic church (and the world in general) needs, regression to the stone age.

All true. But the church is already regressed on these matters; still status quo. Now if mass is said in Latin and we have to keep our backs to the altar, then the regression will be back to the stone age! Could you imagine how good practicing catholic high schoolers will do on their SAT's if they brought the latin mass back? The school I teach in goes from 6th grade to 12th. 7th and 8th graders are required to take latin as their foreign language. It really helps with vocabulary and grammar.

 

[Max]

The school I teach in goes from 6th grade to 12th. 7th and 8th graders are required to take latin as their foreign language. It really helps with vocabulary and grammar.

Hmmm, that's interesting. Must be the quality of teachers. I took 2 years of Latin in high school (about 1,000 years ago it seems) and it was the most useless time I ever spent. I would have been much better served taking just about any other class but that.

Yeah, that catholic church regression is the reason for my wife pretty much dropping out of the religious scene too. Either that or she's come over to my cynical side of the fence!

 

[Paul]

...and he's "anti-contraceptive-have-as-many-kids-as-you-can", "anti-gay marriage", anti-women in the clergy", etc. Just what the catholic church (and the world in general) needs, regression to the stone age.

I had better things to do than be on a smoking chimney watch.

Sorry...rant off...

 

[thetrailboss]

...and he's "anti-contraceptive-have-as-many-kids-as-you-can", "anti-gay marriage", anti-women in the clergy", etc. Just what the catholic church (and the world in general) needs, regression to the stone age.

I had better things to do than be on a smoking chimney watch.

Sorry...rant off...

WHAT A FUNNY POST!!!!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :beer:

 

[ski_resort_observer]

The school I teach in goes from 6th grade to 12th. 7th and 8th graders are required to take latin as their foreign language. It really helps with vocabulary and grammar.

Hmmm, that's interesting. Must be the quality of teachers. I took 2 years of Latin in high school (about 1,000 years ago it seems) and it was the most useless time I ever spent. I would have been much better served taking just about any other class but that.

I convinced my kids to take Latin and they have thanked me many times as it definately has helped them.