Saddleback

[ThinkSnow]

That is easily explained by the drinking age. Saddleback will not be their destination of choice. Trust me.

This is true, however Tremblant Village also appeals to the non-skiers with its shopping, dining and casino. I know quite a few who have gone, and would go back with their skier friends, for those amenities alone (not to mention snowmobiling).

 

[thetrailboss]

This is true, however Tremblant Village also appeals to the non-skiers with its shopping, dining and casino. I know quite a few who have gone, and would go back with their skier friends, for those amenities alone (not to mention snowmobiling).

+ 1.

 

[Puck it]

For real?

If anything I think the current owners are a good case study of how to blow the family fortune in the ski business.

Yes, I would buy it. What is the Berry Family net worth? I was talking Powerball money

 

[deadheadskier]

Yes, I would buy it. What is the Berry Family net worth? I was talking Powerball money

Well, they did say they've invested $40M of their own money. It looks like they're trying to get maybe a third of it back. That to me sounds like a disastrous financial gamble on their part.

I looked up Powerball for Saturday. Take home after taxes would be about $50M.

 

[VTKilarney]

This is true, however Tremblant Village also appeals to the non-skiers with its shopping, dining and casino. I know quite a few who have gone, and would go back with their skier friends, for those amenities alone (not to mention snowmobiling).

I agree, but you were talking about the college crowd. If they can go to a place with shopping, dining, gambling, nightlife AND a drinking age of 18, guess where those college kids are going.

 

[Jully]

I don't know if I'd want to see a K or Stowe template imposed on SB, never mind if it would be successful or not. SB is currently pretty different from it's competitors and I'd like to see someone capitalize on those differences, specifically a focus on non-"urbanite" off hill outdoors activity.

 

[steamboat1]

I'm from south jersey, basically philly, and saddleback has always been on my radar.


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The fact that you haven't been yet demonstrates my point.

I'm from NYC & been there at least a 1/2 dozen times. The difference between going to SB, SL or SR for me is that it has to be for longer than a weekend. While I can leave my house early in the morning & be on the slopes by 9am in VT. the same can't be said for ME. resorts unless of course I drive through the night. Realisticly for me to get to ME. I'm wasting two days traveling. When I did go it was for a minimum of 5 days & most times longer. Same can be said for QC.

 

[VTKilarney]

I'm from NYC & been there at least a 1/2 dozen times. The difference between going to SB, SL or SR for me is that it has to be for longer than a weekend. While I can leave my house early in the morning & be on the slopes by 9am in VT. the same can't be said for ME. resorts unless of course I drive through the night. Realisticly for me to get to ME. I'm wasting two days traveling. When I did go it was for a minimum of 5 days & most times longer. Same can be said for QC.

My bad. I thought that your statement implied that you had never been. But the fact that you concede that it is not worth a weekend trip would rule out a LOT of skiers.

 

[steamboat1]

I'm from south jersey, basically philly, and saddleback has always been on my radar.


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The fact that you haven't been yet demonstrates my point.

My bad. I thought that your statement implied that you had never been. But the fact that you concede that it is not worth a weekend trip would rule out a LOT of skiers.

You're talking to the wrong guy.:smile: I was just giving an example that they do draw some people from my area.

 

[VTKilarney]

You're talking to the wrong guy.:smile:

Whoops! Thanks for clarifying that.

 

[WWF-VT]

I agree....It's location is it's biggest blessing and it's biggest curse. Having said that I believe it can work under the right owner. You have to make the place special for people to make the longer commute. All the raw elements are there (arguably more so than anywhere else in the East), but the build out needs to be there. I think it has to be a big player like mentioned above...A clear vision, deep pockets, high ski business acumen and fortitude are a must!

It's never gonna happen at Saddleback you can also add in Les Otten's pipe dream at the Balsams. They are just too far from the Boston metro area and competing against many more established areas in VT, NH and ME.

 

[VTKilarney]

The one difference is that the Balsams Resort is 3 hours from Montreal whereas Saddleback is about 4.25 hours. But with the Canadian dollar being in the gutter, this may be a largely academic point.

 

[steamboat1]

I wish all the Mass holes would flock up there. Would make the rest of New England a much nicer place.

 

[Winterstick]

I wish all the Mass holes would flock up there. Would make the rest of New England a much nicer place.

Agreed. Just like keeping all the NY/NJ/CT trash at Kmart and Mt. Slow.

 

[steamboat1]

Agreed. Just like keeping all the NY/NJ/CT trash at Kmart and Mt. Slow.

But I've been told I don't like my own kind. Think it was a Mass hole who said it.

 

[prsboogie]

I wish all the Mass holes would flock up there. Would make the rest of New England a much nicer place.

Funny, it was all the NY/NJ attitude and entitlement that I hated at Stratton. The place is great for kids learning but, jeez you would think heads would explode if someone said thank you to workers or excuse me when they push past you and your 6/8 year olds trying to get in the lodge. Or knocking my 6 year old over as one flies by clipping her leg. Almost got arrested on that one!

And yes I do know a NY/NJ a-holes sound like.

Shouldn't really lump geographic areas together because there is plenty of shitty people from everywhere!

 

[Rushski]

Funny, it was all the NY/NJ attitude and entitlement that I hated at Stratton.
And yes I do know a NY/NJ a-holes sound like.

Agreed wholeheartedly. For three seasons had the Sunapee-Okemo-Flatton pass. Dreaded the tram rides with the strangers who were either working on their cell phones or complaining about NOT being out West, when thy probably were mediocre skiers.

 

[ThinkSnow]

And yes I do know a NY/NJ a-holes sound like

The latter should be referred to as J-holes

 

[prsboogie]

The latter should be referred to as J-holes

I like that Jhole!!

 

[Brad J]

I wish all the Mass holes would flock up there. Would make the rest of New England a much nicer place.

Really, your kidding right?????