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A. wishing injury on a competitor you're not a fan of - lame.

B. It's the half pipe comp. What does being the best all around have to do with anything when concerning a half pipe competition?

C. He's BY FAR the best half pipe rider in the world and it's very rare for repeat golds. HUGE accomplishment.

D. Do you know Sean White in person to call him a prick?

Ok DHS A: yes wishing injury=Lame
B: It doesn't have any thing to do w/ the event, it's the over-exposure I have a problem with.
C: What happened to the Olympics being an amateur tournament?
D: Do I have to know you personally to call you a prick?
 

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Wow, rant much?

Because he is the best at what he does by a lot, in a sport where the non-expert can see, with the naked eye, the difference between him and #2?

Because he markets himself well? Because he has distinctive looks?

And as far as this argument goes:

Do you really want to go down this slippery slope? "Oh Vonn is fast at racing but that is only a fraction of the whole skiing/riding experience...she's not that good at riding a rail or hucking cliffs or skiing chutes or ripping the pipe or riding switch etc..."

"Oh Shani Davis is good at speed skating but this is only a fraction of the whole skating experience...he's not so good at hockey, landing a triple loop, or ice dancing"

"Oh Tom Brady is a good quarterback but that is only a fraction of the whole football experience, he's not so good at running the ball, punting, or playing defense"

"Oh Tim Lincecum, he's a good pitcher, but that is only a fraction of the whole baseball experience, he's not really much of an outfielder, he can't play catcher, his hitting is pretty bad..."

And so on...Shaun White is good at what he does, it is a specialized, hard to master subset of a larger sport, and that is the case with many athletes, many of whom have the media all over their junk, all the time. You're talking about the very nature of modern sports.


WOW!! who's ranting now? Don't get mad at me cause you were born with red hair.:flame:
 

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Ok DHS A: yes wishing injury=Lame
B: It doesn't have any thing to do w/ the event, it's the over-exposure I have a problem with.
C: What happened to the Olympics being an amateur tournament?
D: Do I have to know you personally to call you a prick?

A. glad you realize that

B. Do you feel the same way about Lynsay Vonn? I mean, cover of sports illustrated, swimsuit issue, WAY, WAY, WAY more newspaper coverage. Even Hannah Kearney I thought had more coverage than Sean.

C. Pro athletes from other nations have been competing in the Olympics for decades and decades. Same for the US since what? 1992.

D. fair enough. I guess I just don't see Sean and think 'prick'. He confident, but who wouldn't be if they were him? Honestly ANY athlete who is clearly the best in the world at what they do is going to have a bit of an inflated ego, especially if that's been the case since they were 18.
 

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It's really too bad that people can get so negative about someone they have never met. As a hockey guy, I'm way to "used to it". Not from the players, but from the non-participant/opponent/parents. Talk show mentality I guess.

That said, let me assure you that Scotty Lago, and his Dad are good people. Hard workers, and people you would be proud to call your friends. Scotty traveled this summer, getting ready for this Olympic opportunity, and made the most of it. His future is ahead of him, his new home is being outfitted for training, and I look forward to seeing more of his efforts.

As to White, if you can't see he is a once in a generation performer, then I feel for you. When he is no longer active, I suspect the sport will miss him.
 

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As to White, if you can't see he is a once in a generation performer, then I feel for you. When he is no longer active, I suspect the sport will miss him.

agreed. He is the Tony Hawk of this generation. I think they should promote him much, much MORE. It's good for skiing and snowboarding. While it was still in it's infancy, look what Tony Hawk did for the sport of skateboarding. Our sport has been flat in attendance for 30 years. This despite being close to 100 million more people in our country. We can use any possible shot in the arm there is.
 

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The men's half pipe was OK to watch but the women's comp last night was just brutal to sit thru. Almost every girl out there looked like they were struggling to do any trick. I found it to be boring to watch.
 

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The men's half pipe was OK to watch but the women's comp last night was just brutal to sit thru. Almost every girl out there looked like they were struggling to do any trick. I found it to be boring to watch.

Not to be sexist or take anything away from what those ladies were doing in the half pipe, because asside from crashing big, I know I couldn't even imagine doing anything I saw on TV last night, but I think that from a theatrical standpoint, (and lets all be honest that's alot of what NBC and the olympics are selling, drama), Having the women's comp BEFORE the mens comp makes more sense, since from a physical performance standpoint the mens field is just so much more capable of larger and more complex tricks then the womens field is, and after seeing the majority of the men the night before getting larger air on their LAST hits then the majority of the women got on their 1st hits, it seemed a bit anti-climatic.
 

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Not to be sexist or take anything away from what those ladies were doing in the half pipe, because asside from crashing big, I know I couldn't even imagine doing anything I saw on TV last night, but I think that from a theatrical standpoint, (and lets all be honest that's alot of what NBC and the olympics are selling, drama), Having the women's comp BEFORE the mens comp makes more sense, since from a physical performance standpoint the mens field is just so much more capable of larger and more complex tricks then the womens field is, and after seeing the majority of the men the night before getting larger air on their LAST hits then the majority of the women got on their 1st hits, it seemed a bit anti-climatic.

I agree. Also do the women use the exact same halfpipe? If so, should they look into using a smaller (wall size) then the men? It seemed the women had trouble gathering enough speed. Or is this particular pipe used just not of great quality (weather elements), etc.
 

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I agree. Also do the women use the exact same halfpipe? If so, should they look into using a smaller (wall size) then the men? It seemed the women had trouble gathering enough speed. Or is this particular pipe used just not of great quality (weather elements), etc.

They were both in the same 22 footer, and atleast on ambient air temps, it seemed as though conditions were similar with a setting up, semi granular transition area and frozen walls.

The guys just plain and simple start their runs with more speed and then maintain that speed more efficiently throughout their runs. Sure the average guy has more body mass than the average female competitor and that plays a bit of a roll, but it's not like we any 6'2" 200lb guys in their comp.

As for the notion of using a smaller pipe for the women, say maybe an 18 footer, might not be a bad idea if the judges do put such a premium on amplitude as it appeared that many of the women's competitors on the second half of their runs (and some even the 1st half) had issues with getting much more than a couple of feet over the deck. Tke Gretchen Bleiler's 2nd run for example, her attempted air where she crashed, she basically tried to take off about 3 or 4 feet below the lip of the pipe and clipped the tail of her board on the lip of the pipe as she went past it, which threw off her flight and caused the crash. And she's a woman who can definitely get some air on a regular basis!
 
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I certainly agree that the women's competition was painful to watch, after we'd just seen the men get so much more air, and attempt tricks of much greater difficulty with a higher percentage of success.

I am not sure that a smaller pipe is the answer. It seemed to me that a lot of them were pressing, and failing to execute tricks they'd done cleanly in practice or in qualifying. The way it worked out, Torah Bright went first in the second round, and put up a 45.0 score. Hannah Teter already had a 42.4 from the first round, so all of the other girls knew that, to have any realistic shot at a medal, they'd need to really nail it. This created pressure that they weren't able to live up to.
 

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WOW!! who's ranting now? Don't get mad at me cause you were born with red hair.:flame:

In what way was that a rant? I didn't call anybody a name, and I didn't wish harm on anyone. There was no vitriol. There was no letting off of steam. I made a point using logic, one that was reiterated by DMC (comparison to Vonn).

Not to be sexist or take anything away from what those ladies were doing in the half pipe, because asside from crashing big, I know I couldn't even imagine doing anything I saw on TV last night, but I think that from a theatrical standpoint, (and lets all be honest that's alot of what NBC and the olympics are selling, drama), Having the women's comp BEFORE the mens comp makes more sense, since from a physical performance standpoint the mens field is just so much more capable of larger and more complex tricks then the womens field is, and after seeing the majority of the men the night before getting larger air on their LAST hits then the majority of the women got on their 1st hits, it seemed a bit anti-climatic.

Totally agree. My gf was actually kind of embarrassed: "They really aren't nearly as good...and a lot of them are the same size as those little guys!"
 

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bet he's wishing he was a chick.

Julie and Lyndsay like to celebrate to..........


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this was taken after their Gold/Silver finish in the DH
 
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