SLC launches new advertising campaign to pull in Colorado skiers

[BenedictGomez]

two drink rule went away almost 15 years ago.

Well that's good to hear, it was moronic. Couldn't have been quite that long ago though, as I left in mid-2003 and I could have sworn it was still a law (or maybe folks thought it still was?).

I have no idea what you're talking about regarding alcohol per vessel rules. There are plenty of bars that sell full pints of 8% and above brews. If that's a law, it isn't enforced.

Then perhaps this law is gone too, but there was an ABV law in Vermont. Strong IPAs (unhealthy though they are) are among my favorite beers, and there was an ABV percent I remember that they couldn't go over. So things I could get in places like New Jersey and Florida you just couldn't have in Vermont. And I believe it was like that the entire 6+ years I lived in Vermont.

As for the glasses, I'm not sure what the deal was, maybe it isnt a law and just a rule certain pubs enforced (why I dont know).

What about pitchers - are real pitchers of beer legal in Vermont now? That law was absolutely the worst. Such a drag when you'd get your buddies together to watch NFL games (usually at Carburs or Tortilla Flats, both now closed).

 

[BenedictGomez]

Tremblant is also a big area.

Contemplating hitting this place this season just to see what all the fuss is about.

Considering that the population density of the Northeast Corridor is much higher than Quebec, this statement implies a much higher participation rate, no?

I guess it makes sense given Canadians are used to the cold. Moreso than people from some of the large metro northeast drawing areas I mean.

 

[Cannonball]

Utah - Colorado, they are both fantastic to me. I think the law change in Colorado helps even if people are reluctant to admit it.

I'm not reluctant to admit it. I've always considered UT to be the better option for a trip, based on: proximity of airport to the mtns, easier airport, snow quality, etc. The new MJ laws in CO absolutely factor into my decision making and could easily steer my trips back to CO (depending on who I'm traveling with)

 

[deadheadskier]

Well that's good to hear, it was moronic. Couldn't have been quite that long ago though, as I left in mid-2003 and I could have sworn it was still a law (or maybe folks thought it still was?).



Then perhaps this law is gone too, but there was an ABV law in Vermont. Strong IPAs (unhealthy though they are) are among my favorite beers, and there was an ABV percent I remember that they couldn't go over. So things I could get in places like New Jersey and Florida you just couldn't have in Vermont. And I believe it was like that the entire 6+ years I lived in Vermont.

As for the glasses, I'm not sure what the deal was, maybe it isnt a law and just a rule certain pubs enforced (why I dont know).

What about pitchers - are real pitchers of beer legal in Vermont now? That law was absolutely the worst. Such a drag when you'd get your buddies together to watch NFL games (usually at Carburs or Tortilla Flats, both now closed).

The 1 drink per person law went away when they changed last call on Saturdays from 1AM until 2AM. I can't find the date, but I believe it was around 2000.

I never noticed the ABV law enforced in pubs. However, I do remember it enforced for retail sales. It used to be that any beer in VT with a higher ABV than 8% was considered a barley wine and you had to buy it at a State Liquor Outlet. I think that changed in 2009 or so. It made no sense. Most wines are in the 12-14% range and you could buy wine at gas stations, so why not higher proof beers? The people against it thought it was "dangerous for the children" and kids would look to get higher alcohol content beer. Now, I believe the law is that beer is still considered beer up to 16% ABV.

Pitcher availability has never really bothered me much. I'm cool with a 16oz beer. I hardly ever order a 20oz beer as I typically don't drink beer fast enough for that volume to be enjoyable all the way through. Only time I order something large like that is at professional sports game or a really busy place where I know it will take awhile to get service.

I'm pissed that here in NH they haven't embraced the 2AM last call offered up by the state last year. The state left it up to the municipalities to decide. Most police forces campaigned against it saying it would cause more problems late at night. I disagree. I think 1AM creates the bigger issue. You've got service industry workers who don't get out of work and get to the bars until 11:30, so they pound booze as fast as they can knowing they only have an hour and a half. Then everyone piles out on the streets at 1AM and you get issues with those crowds. By extending the hours later, I think the streets would experience less of that massive outflow of drunks all at one time; people would trickle out over time a bit more. At least, that's been my observation in cities like NY and New Orleans where last call is 4AM.

 

[prsboogie]

Well they better legalize MJ or else they may lose some of the 4.1 M skiers they already get.


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I'm sorry but I think that is a sad statement that pot is the driving force as to where people would ski. I know I don't want my kids on a gondola with a group smoking ANYTHING let alone pot. Not to say I have never smoked it but just don't want them exposed to it.

Honestly I'd be more likely to go back to SLC if they don't legalize it. I'm sure there are a lot of families that feel the same. I drink with the best of them but I do not do a lot of that either in front of the kids. My .02¢

 

[BenedictGomez]

I'm sorry but I think that is a sad statement that pot is the driving force as to where people would ski. I know I don't want my kids on a gondola with a group smoking ANYTHING let alone pot. Not to say I have never smoked it but just don't want them exposed to it.

Honestly I'd be more likely to go back to SLC if they don't legalize it. I'm sure there are a lot of families that feel the same. I drink with the best of them but I do not do a lot of that either in front of the kids. My .02¢

I thought the same thing, but I do think pot could be a deciding draw for a certain percentage of young people. That said, that could/would also be a negative factor against that area as well for families etc... as you said. On balance, I bet 90% of people couldn't care less either way and don't even think about it, so net/net, IMO I think pot laws probably have virtually nothing to do with ski economics.

Now if it gets obnoxious and out-of-control to the point it's in-your-face everywhere, then I could see it being a net negative, as families dont want to deal with that as you said. I doubt this happens.

 

[prsboogie]

^^ agreed ^^

 

[deadheadskier]

I'm sorry but I think that is a sad statement that pot is the driving force as to where people would ski. I know I don't want my kids on a gondola with a group smoking ANYTHING let alone pot. Not to say I have never smoked it but just don't want them exposed to it.

Honestly I'd be more likely to go back to SLC if they don't legalize it. I'm sure there are a lot of families that feel the same. I drink with the best of them but I do not do a lot of that either in front of the kids. My .02¢

One thought. It's not just recreational MJ users who might vacation in Colorado or Washington over other western destinations. You've got legal medicinal marijuana in just about every state in the Northeast now. Some states such as Maine and Rhode Island already have vast distribution of medicinal MJ and thousands of patients. That number is going to grow by the tens of thousands of people as NH, MA and other recently approved states set up their networks.

At this point in time, medicinal MJ patients cannot take their prescription on airline flights. So, it's pretty obvious where people with medicinal MJ prescriptions are going to travel to; either states with legal MJ or reciprocal recognition of prescriptions.

 

[prsboogie]

I think there are more rec smokers than medical but under those situations there needs to be clarity.

 

[BenedictGomez]

I think there are more rec smokers than medical but under those situations there needs to be clarity.

Just a bit. lol.

 

[deadheadskier]

Wasn't implying that there are more medicinal than rec users. Just saying that some here are painting all users with a wide stoner brush. I know a few people with MS who have medicinal cards and access to medicine is an important consideration for where they travel. 5-10 years from now that number is going to be much greater. It won't match rec user numbers but it won't be insignificant either.

 

[prsboogie]

Wasn't implying that there are more medicinal than rec users. Just saying that some here are painting all users with a wide stoner brush. I know a few people with MS who have medicinal cards and access to medicine is an important consideration for where they travel. 5-10 years from now that number is going to be much greater. It won't match rec user numbers but it won't be insignificant either.

I hear ya, didn't think you were. There is a very significant and effect use for MJ and it should be easy for those who need it. See the benefits every day, changes some people's lives positively and immeasurably!

 

[prsboogie]

Effective^^

 

[snoseek]

I don't see much difference between any states as far as people smoking weed in public or on chairlifts. It's probably a little worse in Tahoe in my experience. I do wish people were a little more discrete about smoking it out on the hill, at least take a look back on the chairs behind you or better yet duck into the woods. Please don't give all smokers a bad name.

A decade or two from now this will all be no big deal, the culture will die down and maybe everyone won't make such a point to wear it on their sleeve. People will see it for what it is...a mild substance. Just like beer/wine/cocktail.

 

[BenedictGomez]

5-10 years from now that number is going to be much greater.

Maybe. I read a while back that there's an Israeli company that takes the active medical ingredient in the pot out without giving you a high. If that catches on I think it could blunt the growth of medical marijuana. I'd have to imagine a lot of these people dont want to be high all the time.

 

[deadheadskier]

Maybe. I read a while back that there's an Israeli company that takes the active medical ingredient in the pot out without giving you a high. If that catches on I think it could blunt the growth of medical marijuana. I'd have to imagine a lot of these people dont want to be high all the time.

You don't have to look to the Israelis to see modification in medicinal plants. It's happening here in the US. The science is expanding dramatically and new strains are being created all the time to address specific ailments.

Have you not seen or heard about Charlotte's web as an example?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiShwotFJR8

There are gardeners / scientists all over the country trying to tailor other strains to help people with varying ailments with the sole purpose of helping them live comfortably and thrive; not get high. Is anyone in the alcohol industry doing that? Anyone trying to come up with a zero proof bourbon to help someone drinking it to relax?

And regarding recreational use; I really don't get your perspective. In this very thread you rail against alcohol laws, how you couldn't get two drinks at the bar in VT, a pint of high ABV beer or crush pitchers of beer while watching football with friends. Presumably, I'm guessing you wanted to get "high" yourself on alcohol, but don't like how the "man/law" gets in the way of you doing what you want to do.

General observation, for a man who strongly professes libertarian leanings, you're way uptight regarding marijuana.

 

[steamboat1]

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[deadheadskier]

hope you're partaking old man. you certainly could use it

 

[steamboat1]

hope you're partaking old man. you certainly could use it

Typical dip-shit remark.

 

[deadheadskier]

Typical dip-shit remark.

not really. you need to chill buddy