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Stratton Mt Ski Theft

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They got the Bastard:

"After searching the resort for several hours, Winhall police located (redacted) 2008 Mercedes Benz ML350. After obtaining a warrant, officers found multiple pairs of stolen skis and other equipment. "

Must have been poverty stricken driving a 4 year old Benz.
 

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A recurring theme in many larger areas...one guy who strikes and takes multiple skis. Lock them up, especially on holidays and vacation times.
 

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According to the article, he had prior record of the same:

Court documents indicate (redacted) has previous convictions in New York, including criminal possession of stolen property, possession of a stolen credit card, petit larceny and a first-degree defrauding charge.
How many times he was NOT caught, the take might have help his purchase of the Benz?
 

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What a piece of SH%T, IMO a thief like this should get his ass kicked by the victims. As much as I dislike the Winhall police dept, I take my hat off to them for this one. I hope he gets the full 10 years.
 

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Well to start, Hi everyone. newbie to give his 2 cents.

I think the best outcome of this would be to have a 2008 Benz confiscated and become the PD's property due to its involvement in the crime. OUCH!!! 10 years in jail would be great too, but after seeing how the justice system works, I doubt it.
 

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I don't know what it is with security at Stratton. My friends and I went to Stratton yesterday. While we went in for lunch, some bastard took my snowboard and my friends skis were taken as well.

Meanwhile My friends are in law enforcement. The suspect blamed for stuff at Stratton ( mentioned above), was vindicated completely - they had the wrong guy altogether. -- Talk about a lawsuit and a half. He does not even own a Mercedes and resides in NYC. Shows you can't believe everything that's printed in a newspaper or online.
 
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I don't know what it is with security at Stratton. My friends and I went to Stratton yesterday. While we went in for lunch, some bastard took my snowboard and my friends skis were taken as well.

I've seen rent a cops from time to time hanging around, usually on the inside but seriously, how are they suppose to identify a thief amongst 100's and 100's of skiers and boarders.
 

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A better approach might be some signs indicating the area is under video surveillance.

Free ski checks would help a little too... as would locks.
 

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Video security cameras have gotten so cheap now. I'm surprised mountains haven't utilized them yet. Maybe they have but I've never seen any out looking onto the ski racks.
 

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A better idea would be just lock your skis and take some personal responsibility for your possessions instead of wanting the ski areas to jack up prices so they can hire security detail and install a pricy CCTV system (they are not cheap).

I hope the guy that got caught gets the book thrown at him. But that doesn't excuse victims for allowing themselves to be victimized and then blaming the ski areas. Cable locks cost ten bucks and last forever.
 

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A better idea would be just lock your skis and take some personal responsibility for your possessions instead of wanting the ski areas to jack up prices so they can hire security detail and install a pricy CCTV system (they are not cheap).

I hope the guy that got caught gets the book thrown at him. But that doesn't excuse victims for allowing themselves to be victimized and then blaming the ski areas. Cable locks cost ten bucks and last forever.

this

I lock my gear and have zero expectations of the resorts I frequent to have security outside the lodges or video surveillance. Seems like a completely unnecessary expense that surely will just get passed on to the customer.
 

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A better idea would be just lock your skis and take some personal responsibility for your possessions instead of wanting the ski areas to jack up prices so they can hire security detail and install a pricy CCTV system (they are not cheap).

I hope the guy that got caught gets the book thrown at him. But that doesn't excuse victims for allowing themselves to be victimized and then blaming the ski areas. Cable locks cost ten bucks and last forever.

+1

Note to self: Order ski locks, we're out of stock on them!
 

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this

I lock my gear and have zero expectations of the resorts I frequent to have security outside the lodges or video surveillance. Seems like a completely unnecessary expense that surely will just get passed on to the customer.

Agreed; I have a ski lock and I still lock my skis even if I stop at something like the midmountain lodge at Stratton as only skiers/snowboarders that are ticketed can use, I still lock it after I had a guy that grabbed my skis out of the k1 gondola at the top. I'm sure it was an accident as his skis were still in the holder. Still, you never know what kind of !@#$ people will try to pull. Any security costs will definitely get passed onto us.
 

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Video security cameras have gotten so cheap now. I'm surprised mountains haven't utilized them yet. Maybe they have but I've never seen any out looking onto the ski racks.

Still though, how usefull would they really be?? I mean its not exactly difficult to look like a skier/rider leaving the mountain carrying a pair or 2 of skis and/or a board and blend right in with all the other LEGIT skiers/riders leaving the mountain carrying a pair or 2 of skis and/or a board. Car in the loading area, quick walk in, walk around the racks looking for where you left "your" pair(s) of skis/board, grab them, back to the loading area and out of there. If you've got another person or two waiting in the car, looks even more legit to any security folks the ski area may have.

Until folks either get serious about using a lock all the time or using a ski check service this is going to happen. That's the unfortunate reality of the situation
 

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Still though, how usefull would they really be?? I mean its not exactly difficult to look like a skier/rider leaving the mountain carrying a pair or 2 of skis and/or a board and blend right in with all the other LEGIT skiers/riders leaving the mountain carrying a pair or 2 of skis and/or a board. Car in the loading area, quick walk in, walk around the racks looking for where you left "your" pair(s) of skis/board, grab them, back to the loading area and out of there. If you've got another person or two waiting in the car, looks even more legit to any security folks the ski area may have.

Until folks either get serious about using a lock all the time or using a ski check service this is going to happen. That's the unfortunate reality of the situation

Agreed; that's why I question how effective security staff will be watching the racks on the weekend. There's no way that a security guy can put a face to every pair of skis on the rack on a weekend/holiday; possibly on a weekday but would resorts really justify the expense? I don't think so.
 

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My skis are locked every time, but do you know how easy it is to get a pair or bolt cutters or electrical dykes that cut through any ski lock? Especially a cable lock. I've had my equipment cut off, have you? What happens then? If I pay 90$ to ski for one day and my lock gets clipped I'm going to be pointing fingers at someone. If I pay that kind of money I expect some sense of security (if I lock my equipment up) It cost me about 150$ to put cameras around my shop and property. You don't need a fancy system. Granted a resort is quite a bit bigger than my shop, it's still pocket change to a ski resort. Point them to main rack that gets the most traffic and put stickers up everywhere. That would bring theft to a grinding halt. Even fake cameras would work. When equipment is stolen it's not like it doesn't cost the mountain any money. They have to pay someone to run an investigation and coordinate with police. It's still coming back to you regardless.
 
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