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The anything but highway star and east vs. west argument thread

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I'm trying to cultivate some customers in Alberta too, so this
sounds like additional incentive.

Nice... All my customers are in Toronto...
If you hear of any data security projects in Calgary... Drop me a line :)
 

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Because KH offers something different the WB.... Most people I ride/ski with like it better...

My point was it's like taking your kids to Disney World, and they refuse to go in because they want to go to Busch Gardens. No wait, it's like being in Rutland, and wanting to go ski at Seven Springs in PA. Being in Vancouver and going to Kicking Horse to ski really does make no sense, unless you live in Vancouver and you've worn out all the local options. Golden is the best place to stay for KH and I think the Ramada is probably the nicest place (believe it or not). They don't have many hotels. The Ramada is quite modern and looks like it belongs to another chain which isn't known for gross hotels, lol. I said stay at Lake Louise for the purpose of wandering around the other resorts. LL is in the middle, so you're right at one resort and the others aren't too far away. Staying in Golden leaves you with a long drive back to get to Banff. Personally, I stay in Banff. Way more to do there than anywhere else after the resorts close and 500 choices for places to stay. I also prefer to ski Sunshine due to it's eastern like multi-peak pod offerings and modern lift infrastructure. You also don't have to ski 4000 vert to get back to the only lift running. Sunshine usually has all of it's 12 lifts running every day of the week as well.
 

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Oooops. :oops: Coulda swore it was 2011. 2010 seems to close, they haven't gotten anything built yet! lol

Olympics happen in even numbered years.

One thing that's getting done for the Olympics is the Sea to Sky highway from Van to WB. Holy smokes, I go up about every 3-4 months in the on-winter, and they are humping on that thing.
 

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Olympics happen in even numbered years.

One thing that's getting done for the Olympics is the Sea to Sky highway from Van to WB. Holy smokes, I go up about every 3-4 months in the on-winter, and they are humping on that thing.


Yup, I saw a story on discovery about it the other day. It's needed widening for years. The Olympics fortunately forced them to do it. I'm a little afraid that the rush to do it now might make for some sketchy engineering that could lead to disasters down the road though........ :-o
 

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Yup, I saw a story on discovery about it the other day. It's needed widening for years. The Olympics fortunately forced them to do it. I'm a little afraid that the rush to do it now might make for some sketchy engineering that could lead to disasters down the road though........ :-o


It's Canada, not Minneapolis, so I suspect the care of the infrastructure is probably much better. The things that I've driven on at Rt 99 N. seem quite impresive.
 

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It's Canada, not Minneapolis, so I suspect the care of the infrastructure is probably much better. The things that I've driven on at Rt 99 N. seem quite impresive.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...Ha! You're kidding right? I LIVE in Canada. Our roads safer?!?! Nothing could be further from the truth. It took a overpass in Quebec falling down killing 5 people to prompt the gov to go out and inspect the rest of the overpasses in Quebec, at which point they found 200 more were crumbling. Did they close them then? No, they just banned truck traffic from using them. A truck didn't even have anything to do with the first one falling, It just fell. Our roads are whiter than ski trails in winter with salt. Everything is in a rapid state of decay as a result. The Sea to Sky gets shut down atleast twice a year due to landslides. Hanging the 2nd lane precariously over the side of the mountain on rapidly built supports creates an even greater receipe for disaster when those slides occur, but what else can they do?!?
 

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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...Ha! You're kidding right? I LIVE in Canada. Our roads safer?!?! Nothing could be further from the truth. It took a overpass in Quebec falling down killing 5 people to prompt the gov to go out and inspect the rest of the overpasses in Quebec, at which point they found 200 more were crumbling. Did they close them then? No, they just banned truck traffic from using them. A truck didn't even have anything to do with the first one falling, It just fell. Our roads are whiter than ski trails in winter with salt. Everything is in a rapid state of decay as a result. The Sea to Sky gets shut down atleast twice a year due to landslides. Hanging the 2nd lane precariously over the side of the mountain on rapidly built supports creates an even greater receipe for disaster when those slides occur, but what else can they do?!?


I talking about Canada, not Quebec. (I'm Canadian btw). I live in CT, and a while ago we had a bridge (Mianus River) part of I-95, that just decided to fall apart, thankfully after rush hour, and we barely get snow here, so complete lack of maintenance seems to blame.

You can't blame BC for rock slides, and most of the improvements to the sea-to-sky seem to be inwards, rather than over the water - what that'll do to the landslides frequency remains to be seen of course. Maybe I'll just take a seaplane up next time then.
 

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I talking about Canada, not Quebec. (I'm Canadian btw). I live in CT, and a while ago we had a bridge (Mianus River) part of I-95, that just decided to fall apart, thankfully after rush hour, and we barely get snow here, so complete lack of maintenance seems to blame.

You can't blame BC for rock slides, and most of the improvements to the sea-to-sky seem to be inwards, rather than over the water - what that'll do to the landslides frequency remains to be seen of course. Maybe I'll just take a seaplane up next time then.

The story I watched on the contruction of it was detailing all the engineering departments hardships of trying to find something to support the new lanes they were having to hang out over the side. They didn't show any inside blasted sites. I'm from Nova Scotia and the roads there are disgusting. It's hard to go for a motorcycle ride due to the fact here's so many pot holes. I almost killed myself one night a few years ago thanks to a 3x3x1 foot deep crater I couldn't see for on-coming headlights. It DID cost me $1800 in new rims. Bridges are forver falling down in Nova Scotia at a rate of 2 or 3 a year, however, they usually collapse under the weight of a lumber truck. A large DOT salt truck even found itself in a river last winter. The really sad thing is; there is higher fuel tax in Nova Scotia than anywhere else in North America (which is supposed to be set asside for road infrastructure). That makes N.S.'s gas prices almost the highest in Canada and 50 to 60% more than the States. BTW, Quebec is still part of Canada and they actually have the nicest road system I've driven on in Canada.
 

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You Canadians gotta stop arguing... Your sounding like your from the US... :)

I want to visit Regina someday
 

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The story I watched on the contruction of it was detailing all the engineering departments hardships of trying to find something to support the new lanes they were having to hang out over the side. They didn't show any inside blasted sites. I'm from Nova Scotia and the roads there are disgusting. It's hard to go for a motorcycle ride due to the fact here's so many pot holes. I almost killed myself one night a few years ago thanks to a 3x3x1 foot deep crater I couldn't see for on-coming headlights. It DID cost me $1800 in new rims. Bridges are forver falling down in Nova Scotia at a rate of 2 or 3 a year, however, they usually collapse under the weight of a lumber truck. A large DOT salt truck even found itself in a river last winter. The really sad thing is; there is higher fuel tax in Nova Scotia than anywhere else in North America (which is supposed to be set asside for road infrastructure). That makes N.S.'s gas prices almost the highest in Canada and 50 to 60% more than the States. BTW, Quebec is still part of Canada and they actually have the nicest road system I've driven on in Canada.


Quebec still part of the Commonwealth? Can't even give it away, huh? Well, we've still got the south of the Mason Dixon line states, so I guess we're even.
 

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You Canadians gotta stop arguing... Your sounding like your from the US... :)

I want to visit Regina someday

We're not really arguing, we're simply pointing out different facts to each other.

Regina?!?!? Why on earth would you want to go there?!?! Saskatchewan and Manitoba are the "nothing" provinces, like maybe North and South Dakota are the "nothing" states. Nothing meaning there is nothing there and nothing happens there. There are no mountains, no oceans and no rivers and few lakes in Saskatchewan's case. Just plains plains plains and more plains. There are no natural resources other than fields to grow things in when they get 1 good growing season in 10. They are constantly drought plagued or flooded. The typical winter temp is -30 and the typical summer temp is 110. It's like hell, on earth. :puke:
 

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A ski area within driving distance of LA...I could only imagine what the crowds would be there. :roll:

I actually went there earlier this year, you can read my review http://forums.alpinezone.com/13361-snow-summit.html

Yea the crowds can be be pretty bad, its like on loon on the weekend. Although its never cold (definition of cold: over 40 degrees), which for me is sweatshirt weather with the sleeves rolled up. Too bad I didn't know this the first time I went, I was wayy over dressed. If ya asked me its not that greatt though, too crowed, and not nearly challenging enough, next time I go back I'm either gonna learn to snowboard or just hit the terrain park
 

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Regina? Regina? Why? Hey, maybe you can just go to Newark, or Rochester or something - it's closer right? Regina? Yanks:roll:
 

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Regina? Regina? Why? Hey, maybe you can just go to Newark, or Rochester or something - it's closer right? Regina? Yanks:roll:

As sucky as Regina is, I think I'd sooner be there than Newark! lol That's 2 worlds of suck coliding. Regina sucks for lack of anything, Newark sucks for the opposite reason, lol. I'd much sooner be wandering the boardwalk in Atlantic City than be in Regina though!
 

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I actually went there earlier this year, you can read my review http://forums.alpinezone.com/13361-snow-summit.html

Yea the crowds can be be pretty bad, its like on loon on the weekend. Although its never cold (definition of cold: over 40 degrees), which for me is sweatshirt weather with the sleeves rolled up. Too bad I didn't know this the first time I went, I was wayy over dressed. If ya asked me its not that greatt though, too crowed, and not nearly challenging enough, next time I go back I'm either gonna learn to snowboard or just hit the terrain park


Just read it. Good report! It was actually about 28 the day I was there (end of Jan) and felt a bit nippy after LA. Bear is the snowboarder mountain by design. They try to keep them over there and have snow summit mostly for skiing.

The reason it seemed like a kick ass place to me was it was 30 mins outside of the start of "LA", 2 hours from the beach, great weather all winter (sunny and warmer, but not too warm) and a nice little town with good real estate prices (like 1/10th of LA?!?!). Heck, the base lodge of Snow Summit is basically in town. To go skiing would be like going to 7-11. Now, considering my local ski area is 800 vert, 40 mins away, it's 0F or 60 F here in the winter but rarely inbetween, more often than not the precip is on the 60F days, the closest drivable 'REAL" resorts are 8-10 hours away and I'm geographically out of the way business wise, that place looks pretty good. If I moved there I would be 2 hours from the port of Long Beach (the cheapest sailing point from China and 15-20 days vs 35-45 days here), would be next to the largest market in the US, would be able to ski for a few hours every day with no transit time, and Squaw and Mammoth etc are only 4 or 5 hours drive away. Drawbacks are it would get hotter there in summer (but not nearly as hot as LA) and they have a lot of forest fires in the mountains there. There's also the possibility global warming could ruin their ski season over the next 20 years. Decisions, Decisions!
 
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