This time it's London...

[dmc]

I also strongly argee that Blair will have even stronger resolve and stand even more firmly behind the Bush administration on these matter..maybe the rest of the world will follow suit.

How will they follow suit?
Join us in a pointless war in Iraq? That does nothing but add fuel to their fire, train new terrorists and kill innocent civilians?

I was raised to not push my problems off on other people... The civilians in Iraq are taking a beating in the name of 911...
It's not fair...

 

[Greg]

...maybe the rest of the world will follow suit. I hope it doesnt take an attack in each "big" city for these rest of the world to come around on this.

Let's revisit the Olympics theory again. What if Paris got it? Imagine if they hit there?

 

[dmc]

...maybe the rest of the world will follow suit. I hope it doesnt take an attack in each "big" city for these rest of the world to come around on this.

Let's revisit the Olympics theory again. What if Paris got it? Imagine if they hit there?

Why would they attack Paris?
They like the French... They opposed the war in Iraq..

 

[bvibert]

What would they blow up in Scotland that would have the media hype of London? These guys feed on attention and hysteria.

In this case, London was the best target for their purposes.

It is... BUT Scotland is esentially England since they dissemboweled Braveheart...

Good points, I was kinda thinking the same thing after I posted...

 

[SkiDog]

I also strongly argee that Blair will have even stronger resolve and stand even more firmly behind the Bush administration on these matter..maybe the rest of the world will follow suit.

How will they follow suit?
Join us in a pointless war in Iraq? That does nothing but add fuel to their fire, train new terrorists and kill innocent civilians?

I was raised to not push my problems off on other people... The civilians in Iraq are taking a beating in the name of 911...
It's not fair...

They had is soo good before right? Iraq was sa nice place to live pre 9/11? I think not.

Follow suit, to me, would be not attacking the current administration for something they really have no control over. This most likley would've happened iraq war or not.

M

 

[bvibert]

...maybe the rest of the world will follow suit. I hope it doesnt take an attack in each "big" city for these rest of the world to come around on this.

Let's revisit the Olympics theory again. What if Paris got it? Imagine if they hit there?

Why would they attack Paris?
They like the French... They opposed the war in Iraq..

Exactly, I doubt they would have hit Paris if they had been picked... But who knows...

 

[SkiDog]

...maybe the rest of the world will follow suit. I hope it doesnt take an attack in each "big" city for these rest of the world to come around on this.

Let's revisit the Olympics theory again. What if Paris got it? Imagine if they hit there?

Why would they attack Paris?
They like the French... They opposed the war in Iraq..

Wow this really all revolves around the iraq war to you huh? Thats interesting...I don't think we were at war with Iraq when they took down the towers...so how do you explain that one away?

You do also know that even during the Clinton Administration we were dropping bombs on Iraq and flying daily sorties. Iraq has been a problem for more than a decade, no matter if its Clinton, or Bush..Iraq needed to be dealt with.

M

 

[dmc]

They had is soo good before right? Iraq was sa nice place to live pre 9/11? I think not.

Follow suit, to me, would be not attacking the current administration for something they really have no control over. This most likley would've happened iraq war or not.

M

It doesnt matter what Iraq was like before we went in... At least they had electricity and water during Samdams rule...

The fact is - civilians are getting killed every day and we justify it by saying "It's better we fight them there then here"....

It's just not fair to them... No wonder why they hate us... These people just want the basics and they can't even send kids to school without worrying about them getting killed...
It's not fair...

 

[JimG.]

I probably read deeper into your comment than necessary. I guess I was just put off by the mention of Iraq being in the very first post on this topic. No harm, no foul though.

I know where you're coming from, but I think we're too late here. It's also not human nature to be this intellectual. If someone punches you in the nose, do you stop to figure out why he did it, or do you just pop him one back? I'm not saying it's the best response, but simply the most common one. In any event, we're beyond the point of reasoning with them. And I really don't care what causes their hate - there's no justification for killing the innocent.

I am not political and thus there is no political depth to my commentary. I try to stick to facts as much as possible...unfortunately, you're not the only one who gets annoyed by this occasionally.

I agree in theory about the intellectual versus emotional response. Scary to admit how close to being wild animals we are, isn't it? I understand why you wouldn't care what causes their hate, they've done horrible things. I cling to the hope that it is never too late to foster some kind of intellectual dialogue though. Otherwise, we are doomed to perpetual killing.

 

[dmc]

Wow this really all revolves around the iraq war to you huh? Thats interesting...I don't think we were at war with Iraq when they took down the towers...so how do you explain that one away?

You do also know that even during the Clinton Administration we were dropping bombs on Iraq and flying daily sorties. Iraq has been a problem for more than a decade, no matter if its Clinton, or Bush..Iraq needed to be dealt with.

M

Great - now I can't debate you cause you played the "Clinton Card"....
How about whats happening now...???

Iraq has NOTHING to do with 911 - I don't care what Rush Limbaugh says...
The French did not support the war in Iraq which infuriated 80% of the world ..

 

[Greg]

Why would they attack Paris?
They like the French... They opposed the war in Iraq..

I was being facetious. And let's get off the Iraq thing. That's just a convenient excuse.

 

[SkiDog]

They had is soo good before right? Iraq was sa nice place to live pre 9/11? I think not.

Follow suit, to me, would be not attacking the current administration for something they really have no control over. This most likley would've happened iraq war or not.

M

It doesnt matter what Iraq was like before we went in... At least they had electricity and water during Samdams rule...

The fact is - civilians are getting killed every day and we justify it by saying "It's better we fight them there then here"....

It's just not fair to them... No wonder why they hate us... These people just want the basics and they can't even send kids to school without worrying about them getting killed...
It's not fair...

Most of them werent allowed to go to school when Saddam was in power, so IMO its better that they have a chance to go to school even if it is a risk to get there..As for running water and whatnot, thats also debatable, the poor severly suffered there diring Saddams rule. What say you about the mass graves and mass executuions? Should this be allowed? Genocide?

Also "they" dont all hate us..things are seriously imporving over there, mostly from the North down. It will all take time.

None of this is meant to provoke by the by..just keeping things going

M

 

[Greg]

Otherwise, we are doomed to perpetual killing.

Newsflash: We are. It's unfortunate, but true.

 

[SkiDog]

Great - now I can't debate you cause you played the "Clinton Card"....
How about whats happening now...???

Iraq has NOTHING to do with 911 - I don't care what Rush Limbaugh says...
The French did not support the war in Iraq which infuriated 80% of the world ..

The French have always done that though...theyd be speaking german if it wasnt for the U.S. so...who cares ...the French wouldn't have helped really anyway...they're hardly a "super power" IMO..

M

 

[dmc]

I cling to the hope that it is never too late to foster some kind of intellectual dialogue though. Otherwise, we are doomed to perpetual killig.

NICE!!!
It would certainly make a better world for your boys...

 

[SkiDog]

Great - now I can't debate you cause you played the "Clinton Card"....
How about whats happening now...???

Iraq has NOTHING to do with 911 - I don't care what Rush Limbaugh says...
The French did not support the war in Iraq which infuriated 80% of the world ..

Whats happening now, shouldve happened 10 years ago, thats my point...this guy has been a probelm for a LONG LONG time...Every administration for the last decade or so has had to deal with his cra* in one way or another.

M

 

[dmc]

Great - now I can't debate you cause you played the "Clinton Card"....
How about whats happening now...???

Iraq has NOTHING to do with 911 - I don't care what Rush Limbaugh says...
The French did not support the war in Iraq which infuriated 80% of the world ..

Whats happening now, shouldve happened 10 years ago, thats my point...this guy has been a probelm for a LONG LONG time...Every administration for the last decade or so has had to deal with his cra* in one way or another.

M

If you want we can start a discussion about the Crusades... Where this whole problems started...

 

[SkiDog]

Great - now I can't debate you cause you played the "Clinton Card"....
How about whats happening now...???

Iraq has NOTHING to do with 911 - I don't care what Rush Limbaugh says...
The French did not support the war in Iraq which infuriated 80% of the world ..

Whats happening now, shouldve happened 10 years ago, thats my point...this guy has been a probelm for a LONG LONG time...Every administration for the last decade or so has had to deal with his cra* in one way or another.

M

If you want we can start a discussion about the Crusades... Where this whole problems started...

Good one...

We could but i'd have to do some serious "brushing up" on the crusades...

M

M

 

[JimG.]

NICE!!!
It would certainly make a better world for your boys...

I'm guessing you're joking around with me...if you re-read what I wrote I hope you see I'm against a future of perpetual killing.

 

[JimG.]

Otherwise, we are doomed to perpetual killing.

Newsflash: We are. It's unfortunate, but true.

Greg, are you really this cynical? Wouldn't you want to at least take a stand and try to stop it for the sake of your daughter?