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vid of bode miller on 2008 Kitzbühel Downhill
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campgottagopee
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That makes two of us. Amazing how much time he made up in what seemed to be a short amount of vert.
I really don't
because that would mean I'd have to be as crazy as Bode is. There are plenty of skiers out there that possess the technique to ski as fast as someone like Bode or any of the World Cup racers for that matter.
To put that technique into action though, requires MANY screws loose if you ask me
Marc
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Like Turkish says in Snatch-
"He's got as many as these nuts [points to his head] as he's go those nuts [points to his crotch]."
"He's got as many as these nuts [points to his head] as he's go those nuts [points to his crotch]."
kingslug
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GO BODE!!!!! (insert cowbell)
SIKSKIER
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He sure did and while skiing on his inside ski at 70 mph.This is something Bode has always had the ability to do.Just incredible.
I saw it on the canadian channel up here. The race was on and I knew bode did well so I wathced for a while dosing off. I thought I was dreaming the way he came around the bend and went up the snow fence and kept going. The man is crazy... crazy good
campgottagopee
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I'm not sure I fully agree with that staement. i understand what you're saying, but i don't think there are "pleny" of people who posses the technique to ski the same lines he does. He's so tighter to the gates (in DH) than most, that it's not even funny. IMO you have to have such physical strength and mental toughness that so few have.
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Having great technique and skiing the lines Bode does are 2 separate things. Bode doesn't have traditional great technique or perfect form. But his great ability is that he can spot and ski the tightest lines that no one else does...which makes him so fast. If you watch him ski, he is all over the place, (not in the best form), but he takes the tightest lines and his always being on the edge is why he is the most exciting skier to watch on the tour!
thinnmann
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I am 2/3 through Bode's autobiography - and now I am beginning to understand why and how he skis as he does. Lucky thing he didn't really write it - it is really a well told story by an excellent writer, Jack McEnany. Bode did write the preface, though, where he says, "I'm not even going to read this book."
Anyway it is not as simple as his technique & his training - he skis fast because of the way he lived from age 2-20. And because of the way his grandparents and parents lived. This is difficult to explain in a short post - but read the book and you will grok it.
campgottagopee
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That's edzachary what I mean.
SIKSKIER
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thinnmann is right on the money with Bode.I watched him grow up and ski at Cannon for 15 years.He is definately a renegade with his own veiws on things should be and does not care what you think about it.I talked with him last summer at his property in Franconia about that attitude.He is very unique and comfortable being that person.
SkiDork
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but in terms of his "own way of thinking, etc." what the hell happened at Torino? I thought he was gonna sweep the golds there, he was on such a hot streak with his world cup overall win etc.
Paul
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Blocked at work. *sigh*
Guess I'll watch it later tonight...
Guess I'll watch it later tonight...
thinnmann
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You watched him grow up and talked to him at Tamarack?~! Woah!
I am a runner and here is an analogy: The greatest distance runners in the world are Kenyans and Ethiopians. By US running shoe and doctor of podiatry standards, they run incorrectly! Like Bode, their technique is not right! Podaitrists and shoe companies make Americans believe that striking the ground with your heel and wearing supportive devices is the proper way to run. Kenyans and Ethiopians land midfoot to forefoot and run barefoot until someone gives them shoes when they are teenagers. They grow up running 5 or 6 miles to school in the morning and home again in the evening. That is how Bode grew up, in a New Hampshire skiing kind-of-way.
It takes a lot of "unlearning" for long time American runners to run with midfoot striking and without supportive devices. It took me about 2 1/2 years after I changed my thinking in the summer of 2004. Meanwhile, the USA finally has a trio of stars that might be able to stay in the same pack with African distance runners. Ski racers probably need to get some unlearning under their feet.
tree_skier
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I beg to differ with you. It take a huge level of skill and strengh to make some of those turns at those speeds. Vitually all of those people you think you think could do that would be in the fence on the hard right turn 12 seconds into that run.
thinnmann
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All of that was expectations of THE PRESS, not Bode.
I have to refer you to the book again~! In the book, which was published in 2005, he almost predicted what he was going to do in Torino right there in the first eight pages of its Prologue! The part of the book he might have written.
The book's prologue begins with the Olympic oath:
"The most important thing in the Olympic Games is not to win, but to take part, just as the most important thing in life is not the triumph but the struggle. The essential thing is not to have conquered but to have fought well."
Referring to Salt Lake 2002, he he goes on to say,
"I was in Salt Lake City to have fun and to win, which is my attitude in every race I run. Not for the medals, but for the moment. If I win a medal it adds to the fun, but not by much. That said, if I don't win anything at all, I still have fun. Otherwise it would have been a long, hard road."
and later,
"I speak for myself and no one else. I'm laid-back about medals and awards, but the US SKi Team is definitely not. Its front office is interested in medals and you can understand why. In contests where the winners and losers are separated by hundredths of a second, there's virtually never a dispute over who won. Medals are a nice solid, objective standard that they can measure their business model by. Napoleon invented medals; he found you could pay people with them instead of money. It still works.
"The size of the win is all but immaterial. Race results are measured in units of time humans can't perceive. A huge one or two second victory is interesting and exhilarating and weirds out everyone's FIS points, but is worth 100 World Cup points, no more or no less than a squeeker. If I win a race by a couple hundreds of a second, it may have been because I was reaching over the finish line, grasping at it. I win for having longer arms than the other guy? What's that got to do with skiing? Medals, and even finishes, when the times are so proximate, don't measure much. I've seen it so unimaginably close that they ought to give out all golds. Or all bronzes.
"...we ski race six months of the year, every year, on the WC. Forty races plus four more ant the national championships at the end of the season. When it's summer in the Northern Hemisphere, we train in New Zealand and Chile, where it is winter. That's a lot of skiing. Consequently, you have on days and off days, and sometimes the Olympics fall on an off day. It's the law of averages.
Vortex
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The Fence. Wow
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