Vt. ski resort to ban smoking

[ERJ-145CA]

Why ban it from the whole property, I can understand banning it from liftlines but there should be some designated areas where the smokers can go to feel like outcasts.

 

[mister moose]

I hope it gets banned from the entire resort. Hate walking out on a deck to get fresh air and getting hit with cig smoke from all directions. If people wanna suck toxic fumes they can just go to their cars. I go to the mountains to breath fresh air.
I had a few people try to get on the K1 gondola with me with cigs already fired up this weekend. At least he asked if I minded. I said yes and they went to another gondola. I thought you weren't allowed to smoke in the gondola anyway? Liftop just stood there looking at us and didn't say a word...:???:

Well, it feels weird posting to the left of Reno, but I think resort wide is over kill. It's an outdor sport. Why penalize 21% of your customers to that extent? Pico has no gondolas to stink up like at K.

Ban it in buildings, liftlines, lifts, and near entrances and exits. Create an away from the doors, down wind in prevailing wind section of a deck as a smoking area.

I'm sure Pico was worried about difficult regulation on the lift, and people stretching the rules, so they just went with an outright ban. Perhaps the total ban might have been necessary to get the stamp of approval from the American Cancer Society.

I'm not a smoker, and hate it as much as the next guy, but after the fries they might come after my waffle and my ice cream, and my beer and my bourbon, and then we have a problem.

 

[Brewbeer]

They won't go after beer. Beer has been proven to be good for you.

http://www.forbes.com/2008/03/14/beer-drink-health-forbeslife-cx_avd_0317health.html
http://www.askmen.com/sports/foodcourt/45_eating_well.html

AND they make money selling beer.

 

[tjf67]

I hope it gets banned from the entire resort. Hate walking out on a deck to get fresh air and getting hit with cig smoke from all directions. If people wanna suck toxic fumes they can just go to their cars. I go to the mountains to breath fresh air.
I had a few people try to get on the K1 gondola with me with cigs already fired up this weekend. At least he asked if I minded. I said yes and they went to another gondola. I thought you weren't allowed to smoke in the gondola anyway? Liftop just stood there looking at us and didn't say a word...:???:

I make sure I blow smoke in the direction of people like you. Sometimes the non smokers can be as rude as the smokers. I dont ski there but can't imagine it would have any effect on my smoking habit if I did.

 

[snoseek]

I make sure I blow smoke in the direction of people like you. Sometimes the non smokers can be as rude as the smokers. I dont ski there but can't imagine it would have any effect on my smoking habit if I did.

Uhhhh thats a little harsh no? Do you do that in real life?

 

[gmcunni]

If people wanna suck toxic fumes they can just go to their cars. I go to the mountains to breath fresh air.

when i smoked there were 3 cigarettes i loved..

• first one in the morning
• after a satisfying meal
• on a cold day during the lift ride. something about the fresh cool air really made smoking enjoyable (i'm totally serious)

 

[RENO]

I make sure I blow smoke in the direction of people like you. Sometimes the non smokers can be as rude as the smokers. I dont ski there but can't imagine it would have any effect on my smoking habit if I did.

Then I don't have to worry about you. You can hack your lungs out somewhere else instead of on my boots! :lol:

I've never touched a cig in my life. I also don't buy the BS that people that smoke can't quit. My dad smoked 3 packs of cigs a day for 40 years. Had a cig in his mouth when he woke up and when he went to sleep. There was always a cloud around him for many years. He had a minor heart attach 18 years ago and just quit cold turkey. Doesn't miss it for a second. If he can quit, anybody can quit...

 

[tjf67]

Uhhhh thats a little harsh no? Do you do that in real life?

No of course not but when I am outside smoking and someone has a problem with it I don't pay any attention

 

[tjf67]

Then I don't have to worry about you. You can hack your lungs out somewhere else instead of on my boots! :lol:

I've never touched a cig in my life. I also don't buy the BS that people that smoke can't quit. My dad smoked 3 packs of cigs a day for 40 years. Had a cig in his mouth when he woke up and when he went to sleep. There was always a cloud around him for many years. He had a minor heart attach 18 years ago and just quit cold turkey. Doesn't miss it for a second. If he can quit, anybody can quit...

Exercise keeps the hacking away. I have no idea your excercising habits but mine include running 15 to 30 miles per week. Not certain who would be hacking
Great story about your dad glad he quit.

 

[riverc0il]

You can search back in the threads about stuff people hate in liftlines and on the lifts... smoking in the liftline and on the lift is one of the few things that happen while I am skiing that really upset me. I can't simply move away from the smoke and--though many smokers and some less sensitive non-smokers don't understand, or care to understand--it really bothers my respiratory system.

That said, I think this is a little extreme and rather unfriendly to smokers. Interesting move to promote Pico as very family friendly... as long as you are not a family that has a smoker in it. Don't smoke right outside a door, don't smoke in a lift line, don't smoke on the lift... that seems like a no brainer to me. But don't smoke any where on resort property?

Eh, businesses can do what they want with their property and their business. But that is a really unfriendly policy. Smokers are not going to go 8 hours straight without a butt. Thus, smokers just won't ski at Pico. Or, they will and will smoke any ways.

 

[millerm277]

I see this as being unenforceable, and most likely leading to more smoking on the lifts, probably to the annoyance of the other people on said lift.

 

[wintersyndrome]

What about safety meetings?

 

[threecy]

Years ago, there were some who thought non-smoking motels and restaurants wouldn't benefit from that type of designation.

If they can get a bunch of free publicity from this, I suspect Pico can only benefit. I'd also venture a guess that there is a smaller portion of heavy smokers who smoke vs. the normal population. Not only that, but I'd also venture a guess that Pico could see more people wanting to ski smoke-free vs. people who want to smoke while skiing.

 

[Smellytele]

I see this as being unenforceable, and most likely leading to more smoking on the lifts, probably to the annoyance of the other people on said lift.

Just like they can't stop (or rarely do) people from drinking on lifts or having safety meetings.

 

[Cannonball]

It is amazing that this even come up as an issue at all. Why the hell would any skier be a smoker in the first place?!?!

In thousands of ski days I don't think I've actually ever seen someone smoking in a lift line. But then again I don't ski Pico and Killington. Maybe its a resort-specific problem and that's why they are considering the ban?

 

[dmc]

In thousands of ski days I don't think I've actually ever seen someone smoking in a lift line. But then again I don't ski Pico and Killington. Maybe its a resort-specific problem and that's why they are considering the ban?

Go ski europe - you'll see a lifetime of smokers in one day..

 

[Smellytele]

Go ski europe - you'll see a lifetime of smokers in one day..

You'll also see dogs in restaurants and people who use cologne instead of taking showers.

 

[skiadikt]

resort wide is a bit excessive. it's already in the buildings. extend it to the liftlines, decks, the entrances to the buildings. anywhere else it's unenforceable. but where are folks going to do it. pull over trailside? probably lead to more smoking on lifts and that drives me crazy when the smoke wafts back from the chair in front of me.

agree with dork, on those long lines on the glades triple the last few weeks. a number of times either got stuck behind or next to someone smoking. and sometimes it would be 2 or 3 of them together. and just an observation, it was mostly snowboarders. just an observation ...

 

[SkiDork]

It is amazing that this even come up as an issue at all. Why the hell would any skier be a smoker in the first place?!?!

In thousands of ski days I don't think I've actually ever seen someone smoking in a lift line. But then again I don't ski Pico and Killington. Maybe its a resort-specific problem and that's why they are considering the ban?

Where do you ski?

 

[Cannonball]

Where do you ski?

75% Cannon. Then about 20% spread over Wildcat, Jay, Sugarbush. Then randomly anywhere else. Only been to Pico and Killington once each.