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What in the East keeps you from moving out West permanently?

Why do you stay on the east coast?

  • Family lives here

    Votes: 29 63.0%
  • Friends are here

    Votes: 13 28.3%
  • Job is here

    Votes: 24 52.2%
  • Prefer east coast

    Votes: 14 30.4%
  • Skiiing isn't the top of my list

    Votes: 7 15.2%
  • Other reasons

    Votes: 9 19.6%

  • Total voters
    46

kingslug

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The cost of living in NY is getting insane..I'm not making more money per year but costs are going through the roof...200K for a 1 bedroom co op..hell my maintenance and parking are 1300.00...can't save a dime at this rate..just doesn't add up anymore...I tell people..watch the weather channel for a month..then move to a place they don't talk about a lot...
 

ScottySkis

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The cost of living in NY is getting insane..I'm not making more money per year but costs are going through the roof...200K for a 1 bedroom co op..hell my maintenance and parking are 1300.00...can't save a dime at this rate..just doesn't add up anymore...I tell people..watch the weather channel for a month..then move to a place they don't talk about a lot...

I understand, I grew up in Centereach, and talk to friends now in back home and say how high the prices are, a lot of them have left the Island and the state.
 

kingslug

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I just don't how a lot of people like LI..especialy after Irene and Sandy, hell this last snowstorm creamed half the place...
 

steamboat1

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Actually if you own a home in NYC real estate taxes are very reasonable. My yearly real estate tax is less than 2 months worth of kingslugs maintenance & parking fees. Can't say the same for the surrounding areas though. And the services are excellent. Sanitation did some job picking up the stuff put out on the curb from people gutting their homes after Sandy free of charge. People were flooded all around me but I didn't get hit. Water stopped rising only a few hundred feet from my house. Same thing with this past snowstorm. My block was plowed at least a dozen times before the flakes stopped falling. I've had the same experience with past major snowstorms also.
 
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abc

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Nick

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No surprise at all. It's heavily salary biased. So the most expensive cities WITH SIZABLE TECH WORKFORCE will come out on top simply because they have the highest salary.

I should clarify. Colorado is now home to a huge tech startup initiative. Many startup incubators are out there (predominantly Techstars). More established companies are still located in Boston / San Fran.

NYC is definitely up and coming but is still more of a financial / media epicenter; not so much technology.
 

dmc

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NYC is definitely up and coming but is still more of a financial / media epicenter; not so much technology.

Digital Media technology... Even Media and Entertainment companies need IT to manage new data sources for real time analytics.. We work with all kinds of companies in NYC from big media to gaming..

WAY more interesting to me than working for a retail chain or communications company IT dept.. Only place I'd really consider for a job change would be the Bay Area.. Have lot's of friends at EBay and LinkedIn. They are into some insane stuff.

The best jobs for me are in the Bay Area and NYC...
 
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mlkrgr

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Good day ticket deals; paying $45 or less a day (excluding transit costs) anyday you want to ski is not too far out of the question (my average right now stands at about $16 a day for this season) whether you do it by season passes, promos, vouchers, or bundle deals that tie in lodging and lift when compared to lodging only pricing or bus and lift ticket pricing for bus trips vs bus only (which I think for $40 a head for the bus only pricing, it is a fair price for up to 3 people once you think about gas and wear and tear combined). Go out west and the best you'll do is paying Vail $629 or so for a season pass. With higher transit costs (bus only is $47-$55 at CA resorts), you need to ski 25x to make CA skiing the same value as single day ticket "deal" pricing in NE, or you otherwise pay $100-150 per trip for the bundle between ticket and bus vs $80ish in NE. This is talking from a metro area to a ski resort. Don't know about CO though.
 

snoseek

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Good day ticket deals; paying $45 or less a day (excluding transit costs) anyday you want to ski is not too far out of the question (my average right now stands at about $16 a day for this season) whether you do it by season passes, promos, vouchers, or bundle deals that tie in lodging and lift when compared to lodging only pricing or bus and lift ticket pricing for bus trips vs bus only (which I think for $40 a head for the bus only pricing, it is a fair price for up to 3 people once you think about gas and wear and tear combined). Go out west and the best you'll do is paying Vail $629 or so for a season pass. With higher transit costs (bus only is $47-$55 at CA resorts), you need to ski 25x to make CA skiing the same value as single day ticket "deal" pricing in NE, or you otherwise pay $100-150 per trip for the bundle between ticket and bus vs $80ish in NE. This is talking from a metro area to a ski resort. Don't know about CO though.


You may have an argument for Telluride or Aspen but honestly the deals out here are on par with the east. Actually season passes are for the most part cheaper. I paid 379 for a krikwood/heavenly/northstar pass, 10 blackout dates total. Similar deals in Colorado throughout the state. There's plenty of ticket deals and twofors to big places like squaw/mt rose/winter park/copper and many more. Transit cost are likely based out of San Francisico right? Sacramento and Reno are both good size towns and very drivable, both less than two hours. Denver has a ski bus that runs killer deals now. SLC has free bussing with a pass. Acre for acre I'm pretty sure it cost less to operate at many western resorts due to less snowmaking so all in all It's a better value IMO.


Just did the math, Im at $5.50 per day and dropping mostly skiing Kirkwood/Heavenly
 

mlkrgr

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You may have an argument for Telluride or Aspen but honestly the deals out here are on par with the east. Actually season passes are for the most part cheaper. I paid 379 for a krikwood/heavenly/northstar pass, 10 blackout dates total. Similar deals in Colorado throughout the state. There's plenty of ticket deals and twofors to big places like squaw/mt rose/winter park/copper and many more. Transit cost are likely based out of San Francisico right? Sacramento and Reno are both good size towns and very drivable, both less than two hours. Denver has a ski bus that runs killer deals now. SLC has free bussing with a pass. Acre for acre I'm pretty sure it cost less to operate at many western resorts due to less snowmaking so all in all It's a better value IMO.


Just did the math, Im at $5.50 per day and dropping mostly skiing Kirkwood/Heavenly

Wow; free busing to ski resorts? That may make me move out west! My $16 a day is mostly thanks to vouchers. Yes, I was comparing ski bus costs in New England to San Fran. https://www.nacski.com/mr/booking.aspx?r=ca-sfb $94 plus $47 for early bus fare to Heavenly, or $97 for the second day lift ticket of a two day trip for the upcoming weekend plus $110 for the two day bus compares to $40 in NE plus $42 for the ticket, or $75 for the bus for two days plus $42 to Sunday River and $49 for Sugarloaf. The length of the trips are no worse than 30 minutes longer than going from Boston to Jay Peak.

Though, $59 for a bus trip from the Boston area was quite commonplace a few years ago even to Sunday River including ticket. Now that's up to a minimum of $77 w/ a coupon code from Facebook w/ Nacski or membership from BSSC which is only worthwhile if you buy a groupon deal unless you go for a BSSC Wednesday trip which is now $63 plus a few bucks for parking.
 

bigbog

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But I ain't never going to Florida. Evah.
There's some interesting & good paying work down there(Gulf & Atlantic...climate...etc.). Never say Never Nick...;-)
Why am I here? House, mom...homecare till she goes, Crap: previous job loss(es) (Boston area) due to dept. consolidations and character defamation belief by mgmnt(concocted by lifelong addict, slime & streetwalking-sister team since mid-70s(how bout' that)...taking legal action)..Sooo would like to stick around for a while....to finally get my shots(revenge is sweet...LOL) in.... ...And get to enjoy a few early morning DRIVES:angry: to coffee meetings with some people I know in Washington, or formerly in Washington...LOL, but get paid for!!(Why I never throw them any serious insults...lol).
 
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snoseek

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Not to knock the Bay Area but really its not a very user friendly town to ski out of at all, although lots of people do it all the time. There are much better cities in the west for that. Around here Reno is the way to go, super close drive, cheap living, cool town. San Fran has a bunch of other coold draws I'm sure but if skiing is really truly important then I would look elsewhere. That's just my opinion though.

Another thing, as far as pay goes in most western cities, yeah its less for sure. Factor in less money for housing, no tolls, cheaper gas (depending on location), less money for heating (specifically for all you oil users), and its sort of a wash. As a renter Tahoe is substantially cheaper then coastal NH. Don't buy a bunch of shit you don't need and its no big deal. Then again this is coming from someone that still sluts his money back east in the summer but I don't do that becasue I have to, i do it because it allows me to take winters off, period. Plus I feel like its a good balance...seeing family/friends for the summer.

At the same time I wouldn't mind spending a winter or two at Stowe, especially after seeing that last vid Deadhead posted in the other thread. I feel like there's good times to be head over there for sure!!!
 

Cheese

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I'm here building a nest egg until I can retire to near SLC. I suppose there are tech jobs in SLC as well but in this economy I'm a little chicken to give up job security. I've played the 4 season card a few times when people ask but it's complete BS. If I were to count the beach days vs. ski days, it would certainly be more cost effective to live in SLC and fly to NE for the couple days I spend at the beach or admiring the foliage each year. If I were out west would I fly to NE for the beach when I could go to the Caribbean for the same price, not likely. So, I'm probably like every other New England resident. I say I'm proud to be here even though I'm lying through my teeth since my desired home would be a short drive to the resorts in Little Cotton Wood and Big Cotton Wood Canyon.
 
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