Smellytele
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Better grading system...
http://www.warrensmith-skiacademy.com/about-the-course_group-and-skier-levels.htm
http://www.warrensmith-skiacademy.com/about-the-course_group-and-skier-levels.htm
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mondeo
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How many athlete/professionals do you think are going through the Sugarbush school?
How many athlete/professionals do you think are going through the Sugarbush school?
suppose I deserve a facepalm as well :lol:
I think he was pointing me towards that grading system as my thoughts align better with the scale smellytele presented than they do with the Sugarbush scale.
As this is purely about the sugarbush scale, I should probably just stfu. :lol:
gmcunni
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red???
Level 4 Advanced
This group consists of skiers who can ski with confidence on Blues, Reds and Black runs.
is that some kind of Canadian thing?
mondeo
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Oh, yeah, I missed your post. Should've been directed at you.
:razz:
Of course, something could be said about someone asking a skiing message board what level they think they are and then pointing to a scale intended for a completely different audience. What value any of this thread has, I don't know.
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Reds are used in Europe for intermediate trails.
WWF-VT
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How about a new poll to decide if you're a Powder Pig or Mogul Gopher or Snowboard Beaver?
http://stowe.snowmonsters.com/
http://stowe.snowmonsters.com/
reefer
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WWF-VT post of the summer..............
i'm in for this one. I'll go with powder pig. WTF is with the blizzard babies fogging up the goggles and making shit out of "golden ice"?
i'm in for this one. I'll go with powder pig. WTF is with the blizzard babies fogging up the goggles and making shit out of "golden ice"?
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snowmonster
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Hey! A website just for me!
gmcunni
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riverc0il
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See my comment above. For what it is worth, I am not voting.
I only skied with +- 5 skiers on this board and would consider every one of them solid skiers. This is where people that are hyper-stoked on the sport go online.
Edit-I voted level 1 to keep it real!
riverc0il
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Further commentary on rating systems:
Many of these numerical rating systems ask someone to self evaluate based on the type of terrain they usually ski. The type of terrain you normally ski has little to do with your actual level of proficiency and skill.
Right. 10 years ago, I had "good technique" and enjoyed difficult trails and could ski ice and run gates. I was learning moguls so I could hack my way through them and dabbled in the glades as well. 10 years ago, by this rating system, I would be an eight. Technically, I am far superior now than I was ten years ago. "Good technique" is about as vague as you can get. Who wants to think of themselves as having average technique or poor technique? A lot of folks skiing the hardest trails on the mountain, in fact, have poor technique but ski tough terrain despite that technique. It is easy to self select your skill level based on the fact that you can hack your way down any trail rather than objectively seeing your skill level for what it is.
Further, scales like this top out too low in the skill set category. The highest skill set in any rating system should be reserved for 1% (or less, perhaps) of skiers. I am not in that skill set. These are pro racers, globe trotting freeskiers, etc. The real pros that are not one dimensional and truly can ski anything with incredible technique. SB's 8 really is an 8 on a 1-10 scale of skill and ability, IMO. It just means you have a minimal skill level to at minimum hack your way down Bush's hardest trails.
I would have less objection if rating systems like this were more objective. But they would also need to scale in multiple categories as well. Some great bump skiers suck on groomers and vice versa. My technical ability off piste has grown in recent years while my groomer skills have slide horribly. Skills change year to year in different areas.
Many of these numerical rating systems ask someone to self evaluate based on the type of terrain they usually ski. The type of terrain you normally ski has little to do with your actual level of proficiency and skill.
Right. 10 years ago, I had "good technique" and enjoyed difficult trails and could ski ice and run gates. I was learning moguls so I could hack my way through them and dabbled in the glades as well. 10 years ago, by this rating system, I would be an eight. Technically, I am far superior now than I was ten years ago. "Good technique" is about as vague as you can get. Who wants to think of themselves as having average technique or poor technique? A lot of folks skiing the hardest trails on the mountain, in fact, have poor technique but ski tough terrain despite that technique. It is easy to self select your skill level based on the fact that you can hack your way down any trail rather than objectively seeing your skill level for what it is.
Further, scales like this top out too low in the skill set category. The highest skill set in any rating system should be reserved for 1% (or less, perhaps) of skiers. I am not in that skill set. These are pro racers, globe trotting freeskiers, etc. The real pros that are not one dimensional and truly can ski anything with incredible technique. SB's 8 really is an 8 on a 1-10 scale of skill and ability, IMO. It just means you have a minimal skill level to at minimum hack your way down Bush's hardest trails.
I would have less objection if rating systems like this were more objective. But they would also need to scale in multiple categories as well. Some great bump skiers suck on groomers and vice versa. My technical ability off piste has grown in recent years while my groomer skills have slide horribly. Skills change year to year in different areas.
I have crappy technique, I admit it all the time. I enjoy skiing challenging terrain, I just don't look good doing it. That's why I rated myself a 7 on that scale, though I think I'm better than a 7... just not as good as an 8... :dunce:
Geoff
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Half the instructors don't qualify for that.
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