Who Will Be the FIRST To Open for 2011-2012 in the NE?

[deadheadskier]

WROD skiing is awful , worst skiing around.. It's not worth skiing unless a area is at least half open.

I for one am glad most folks share this opinion with you.

less people on the lifts/trails for me.

I've had great WROD days in my life where nice soft bumps show up in the afternoon. that's all I need to have fun

 

[AdironRider]

Arent they just demoing the lodge and running infastructure up there this year, then building the actual new lodge next summer? I dont see that many issues from the Peak Lodge this fall if this is the case.

 

[mister moose]

Given the short construction season at the peak, I would try to get as much as possible on the new peak lodge accomplished this year. Finish all the site work. Pour concrete and hay it in. If time allows get some steel up. There's always unexpected delays, and to be finished by the end of next summer everything they can get done this year is money in the bank for next year.

This assumes the building is fully designed and permitted.

Given that, I see no likelyhood of opening earlier than Nov12, with one asterisk:

*If they really really want to open earlier, they could open the Glades with a walk down the steps to ski and a walk back up to download. That would keep the work road to the peak open. Close passing traffic on the walkway if they do it.

 

[AdironRider]

Considering that they have pretty much all of the building down minus a wall and a couple sticks, I really just dont see them reaching that much of a roadblock between now and the end of October (3 months from now). This isnt government work, this is private enterprise.

Also, the building really only needs to be dried in and they can continue to work no problem next fall. Thats how JHole built their summit lodge. If anything, running the gondi is going to make things easier as they can shuttle up materials that way.

 

[Magog Fishy]

I went with some dark horse, although do NOT have a clue as to who! Do NOT think it will be Saddle – do not really have the lift set-up, plus IMO too far from a major metro area. Who knows maybe some real dark horse like a Waterville. They have the lift set-up, elevation, and I think there is snowmaking on the trails off of High Country Double although IIRC that area can get windblown. Close to Boston market plus a way for the Sununu’s to make a statement that WV is on the way back. Not challenging terrain but they could build in some park features.

I do NOT think it will be Jay – even if they get walloped with a storm – but who knows maybe opening early will be a part of a blitzkrieg advertising campaign for the New Hotel Jay/waterpark. Would be too boring if everyone voted for SR or Killington!

 

[mister moose]

Considering that they have pretty much all of the building down minus a wall and a couple sticks, I really just dont see them reaching that much of a roadblock between now and the end of October (3 months from now). This isnt government work, this is private enterprise.

Also, the building really only needs to be dried in and they can continue to work no problem next fall. Thats how JHole built their summit lodge. If anything, running the gondi is going to make things easier as they can shuttle up materials that way.

It nearly is government work what with the mountain of permit requirements they likely have to deal with. It's just being done by private enterprise. If they run into a field change and some CYA type kicks it up the ladder because he doesn't want to make a decision, everything comes to a halt.

 

[Geoff]

Given the short construction season at the peak, I would try to get as much as possible on the new peak lodge accomplished this year. Finish all the site work. Pour concrete and hay it in. If time allows get some steel up. There's always unexpected delays, and to be finished by the end of next summer everything they can get done this year is money in the bank for next year.

This assumes the building is fully designed and permitted.

Given that, I see no likelyhood of opening earlier than Nov12, with one asterisk:

*If they really really want to open earlier, they could open the Glades with a walk down the steps to ski and a walk back up to download. That would keep the work road to the peak open. Close passing traffic on the walkway if they do it.

Read the Act 250 permit. It has a schedule. The schedule says they remove the old lodge this summer and put in a sewer line to the bottom. The schedule says the new lodge construction is next summer.

1 bottle of Wild Turkey 101 (in glass bottle) says Killington will be open before November 12, 2011

 

[Highway Star]

*If they really really want to open earlier, they could open the Glades with a walk down the steps to ski and a walk back up to download. That would keep the work road to the peak open. Close passing traffic on the walkway if they do it.

Nobody is going to be walking down the peak stairway in skiboots anytime soon. Lol.

 

[jarrodski]

Nobody is going to be walking down the peak stairway in skiboots anytime soon. Lol.

i agree.

 

[mister moose]

Read the Act 250 permit. It has a schedule. The schedule says they remove the old lodge this summer and put in a sewer line to the bottom. The schedule says the new lodge construction is next summer.

1 bottle of Wild Turkey 101 (in glass bottle) says Killington will be open before November 12, 2011

On your advice, I found and read portions of the permit. However, permits can be resubmitted or modified. It is barely August. So while I agree with your assessment of the permit, I don't agree with that it is ironclad. In the grand spirit of Wild Turkey Sportsmanship we have come to know, I will take that bet, but back it off a week if I have to put money on the table. One bottle of Wild Turkey, 101, in a glass bottle (They only sell plastic in your neighborhood) in your hands if Killington opens before November 5th. This still leaves plenty of time for them to do an early walkway opening, if that is indeed their preferred plan over work progressing on the new lodge.

In other news, the permit fee for the lodge was $54,942. Holy Crap.

 

[Geoff]

On your advice, I found and read portions of the permit. However, permits can be resubmitted or modified. It is barely August. So while I agree with your assessment of the permit, I don't agree with that it is ironclad. In the grand spirit of Wild Turkey Sportsmanship we have come to know, I will take that bet, but back it off a week if I have to put money on the table. One bottle of Wild Turkey, 101, in a glass bottle (They only sell plastic in your neighborhood) in your hands if Killington opens before November 5th. This still leaves plenty of time for them to do an early walkway opening, if that is indeed their preferred plan over work progressing on the new lodge.

In other news, the permit fee for the lodge was $54,942. Holy Crap.

Backing out of November 12th to the 5th? Why don't you just tell me you want me to buy you another bottle of Wild Turkey?

OK. I accept the bet but with slightly modified terms since you totally changed the odds. If I win, I want it delivered 2 oz at a time on the mountain. I also accept American Honey as a substitute.

 

[bigbob]

Killington stated that they would be installing the foundation this construction season along with fiber optic line and sewer to the base.

Back in the day when the Killington double was still there with the midstation, Killington would open for a day or two in October or even September just for bragging rights similar to what Sunday River now does. Some of you may of been your fathers wet dream then, thus explaining why this is often not mentioned.

 

[bigbob]

Whats up with the right side of the trail map? Did it use to be part of the ski area or is it just clear cut. Looks like it could be interesting, but can't imagine they get enough snow there.

Yellow dotted line says ski area boundry, field lookd to be out of bounds.

 

[mister moose]

Backing out of November 12th to the 5th? Why don't you just tell me you want me to buy you another bottle of Wild Turkey?

OK. I accept the bet but with slightly modified terms since you totally changed the odds. If I win, I want it delivered 2 oz at a time on the mountain. I also accept American Honey as a substitute.

You mean I can tell you I want a bottle of Wild Turkey any old time and I'll get one? And to think I had those ruby slippers on all the time....

Look, there is no such thing as backing out of a deal that hasn't been consumated. And your terms mean I'd be delivering 12.8 times at the time and place of your choosing? I don't think so. Those logisitics would never work. I will however deliver the entire bottle on the mountain if you like. And you've had the benefit of American Honey on tap for some time now.

 

[Geoff]

You mean I can tell you I want a bottle of Wild Turkey any old time and I'll get one? And to think I had those ruby slippers on all the time....

Look, there is no such thing as backing out of a deal that hasn't been consumated. And your terms mean I'd be delivering 12.8 times at the time and place of your choosing? I don't think so. Those logisitics would never work. I will however deliver the entire bottle on the mountain if you like. And you've had the benefit of American Honey on tap for some time now.

Right. So if I win, the Wild Turkey goes in my liquor cabinet for you to drink. If you win, the Wild Turkey goes in your liquor cabinet for you to drink.

I'll just buy another bottle of Wild Turkey the next time I'm at a New Hampshire State Liquor Store and write Mister Moose on it with a sharpie. No ruby slippers necessary.

 

[mister moose]

Right. So if I win, the Wild Turkey goes in my liquor cabinet for you to drink. If you win, the Wild Turkey goes in your liquor cabinet for you to drink.

I'll just buy another bottle of Wild Turkey the next time I'm at a New Hampshire State Liquor Store and write Mister Moose on it with a sharpie. No ruby slippers necessary.

So just name another bottle if WT doesn't warrant your interest. American Honey? Grand Marnier? I could stand a bottle of that in your liquor cabinet with my name on it.

*Edit
Last year's opening day was Tuesday, November 2, and they were unable to open much earlier as they were still building the stairway. Now that the stairway is complete, you're saying that 2 days later is a gimmie?

 

[drjeff]

In light of the damage from Irene and what they've been through (and will be recovering for a while now), I want to make a sentimental change to my original choice of SR to K. While K has gotten some serious national media attention these last few days, i'm hoping that they get some more in less than 2 months for being the 1st ski resort in the US to open for the '11-'12 season!

 

[deadheadskier]

In light of the damage from Irene and what they've been through (and will be recovering for a while now), I want to make a sentimental change to my original choice of SR to K. While K has gotten some serious national media attention these last few days, i'm hoping that they get some more in less than 2 months for being the 1st ski resort in the US to open for the '11-'12 season!

sign'd

would love to see the Beast come roaring back in October

 

[jimmywilson69]

That would be a great gesture on a number of levels. I know the local toursit based businesses would appreciate it.

 

[Black Phantom]

In light of the damage from Irene and what they've been through (and will be recovering for a while now), I want to make a sentimental change to my original choice of SR to K. While K has gotten some serious national media attention these last few days, i'm hoping that they get some more in less than 2 months for being the 1st ski resort in the US to open for the '11-'12 season!

Right on. I hope they are able to come out swinging after this. A spinning back kick would be nice as well.