Womens DH 3x> Mens DH

[deadheadskier]

Part of it was the conditions. Womens conditions were hard as a rock; what's needed for a balls out DH run.

However, I also thought the course was much more dynamic though. I found the mens DH coverage to be rather boring, but the womens kicked ass.

I say this having known the results for both races well prior to watching them in prime time. Thanks again NBCash

 

[marcski]

While certainly exciting, it seems as though the course was almost too hard...there were too many crashes....especially since this isn't a regular stop on the WC..the women didn't have that much of a chance to get to know the Course.

With that said, Lindsey is just mind-boggling...she is truly in a class by herself this season. And..Julia...wow..what a hottie, seems totally cool and she is just awesome ...how clutch...she always pulls out a good run in the big races!

 

[wa-loaf]

It was a tough course, but I think the lack of training runs was more of a problem. Seemed like some were surprised by some of the rollers.

 

[Rambo]

Mancuso's run:
http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/as...562c475cdd2.html#julia+mancuso+streaks+silver

Vonn's run:
http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/as...eamusa#lindsey+vonn+wins+emotional+first+gold

Women's DH crashes:
http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/as...ntext=fastandfearless#womens+downhill+crashes

 

[drjeff]

That womens course was way more technical than the mens course. Much more gliding on the mens course and very little on the women's. Many more airs in the women's course than the mens too. Even if the men's course was frozen solid from top to bottom, it still wouldn't have been proportionately as challenging as the women's course was.

 

[Warp Daddy]

That womens course was way more technical than the mens course. Much more gliding on the mens course and very little on the women's. Many more airs in the women's course than the mens too. Even if the men's course was frozen solid from top to bottom, it still wouldn't have been proportionately as challenging as the women's course was.

I totally agree here doc !! No comparison whatsoever . Practice runs or not , conditions or not the terrain changes and turns were simply more complex and those 2 hotties handled it very well . we won both medal for skill and IMHO for the 2 best looking chicks in the field not that i'm biased or anything !!

 

[deadheadskier]

That womens course was way more technical than the mens course. Much more gliding on the mens course and very little on the women's. Many more airs in the women's course than the mens too. Even if the men's course was frozen solid from top to bottom, it still wouldn't have been proportionately as challenging as the women's course was.

agree completely. the degree of difficulty I thought was what a downhill course should be. Probably explained the much greater gaps between finish times for the women than the men too.

awesome race!

 

[jaywbigred]

Two hottest ladies in the field, two best finishes. Enough said. It is almost unfair to the rest of the field how Lindsey is so strong that she can ski a far-from-perfect race and still win handily. And Julia is a big game specialist, wow! Excited for the rest of their races!

 

[drjeff]

I totally agree here doc !! No comparison whatsoever . Practice runs or not , conditions or not the terrain changes and turns were simply more complex and those 2 hotties handled it very well . we won both medal for skill and IMHO for the 2 best looking chicks in the field not that i'm biased or anything !!

Warp, consider me just as biased! :lol:

agree completely. the degree of difficulty I thought was what a downhill course should be. Probably explained the much greater gaps between finish times for the women than the men too.

awesome race!

DHS, I just remember watching the mens DH and saying to myself, "okay this gliding section should be over soon and then we'll see the steep, techical stuff" however after a quick turn or 2, then men were back into a gliding tuck for another extended run. Just seemed like a borring DH course for what is argueably the premier DH event in the world(I know that some could legitimately argue that Kitzbuhl every year is the premier event) and with two mega mountains with world class terrain to choose from, I would have thought that the course designers could have picked a more techincal and exciting track than what they did for the men.

Part of me was having flashbacks to the 1984 mens Downhill where Bill Johnson won on what was universally considered a gliders course.

 

[billski]

I hope Mancuso gets more coverage; she's getting hidden in Vonn's media shadow. Watch Julia's run again. It is strong, steady and solid. I know the two hugely compete against each other, but she really deserves more credit than she is getting from the media. This, not hiding the fact that the US 1-2 Gold-Silver finish is record-breaking for Olympic skiing needs greater recognition.

I wonder how Vonn's shin is holding up....

 

[Black Phantom]

I hope Mancuso gets more coverage; she's getting hidden in Vonn's media shadow. Watch Julia's run again. It is strong, steady and solid. I know the two hugely compete against each other, but she really deserves more credit than she is getting from the media. This, not hiding the fact that the US 1-2 Gold-Silver finish is record-breaking for Olympic skiing needs greater recognition.

I wonder how Vonn's shin is holding up....

.56 out is large in an event like this.

 

[hammer]

I hope Mancuso gets more coverage; she's getting hidden in Vonn's media shadow. Watch Julia's run again. It is strong, steady and solid. I know the two hugely compete against each other, but she really deserves more credit than she is getting from the media. This, not hiding the fact that the US 1-2 Gold-Silver finish is record-breaking for Olympic skiing needs greater recognition.

I wonder how Vonn's shin is holding up....

Impressive runs from both...when they replayed Vonn's run it was amazing how she managed to finish practically on one ski. As was already mentioned, she was able to compensate for technical flaws and injury through sheer athleticism.

 

[wa-loaf]

.56 out is large in an event like this.

Yeah, but if you compare it to how far off the other competitors are, it's actually pretty close.

 

[SkiDork]

were the 2 courses totally seperate? Or parts colocated?

 

[drjeff]

Yeah, but if you compare it to how far off the other competitors are, it's actually pretty close.

Considering that Julia was clear of the rest of the field by almost a second, I think it's quite a fair statement to say the yesterday, the US women smoked the field! Especially considering that Stacey Cook finished 11th also! 3 US women in the top 11 in a downhill is a PHENOMENAL day for the US Women's speed team! :flag:

 

[Black Phantom]

Yeah, but if you compare it to how far off the other competitors are, it's actually pretty close.

Look at the results. It is a huge difference.

http://www.nbcolympics.com/alpine-s...es/event=ASW010000/phase=ASW010101/index.html

 

[drjeff]

were the 2 courses totally seperate? Or parts colocated?

Here you go Dork, from the NBC venue bio page:

"Courses
The men's downhill slope is located on the newly-designed Dave Murray Downhill course on Whistler Mountain, named for the late Canadian Alpine skier who competed in the 1980 Lake Placid Games and made up one part of the popular "Crazy Canucks" Canadian speed team of the 1970's and 1980's. The women's downhill course, Franz's Run, is parallel to the men's course. It is named for Franz Wilhelmson, who was a driving force in getting the Whistler Resort to its current status as a top ski resort in North America.

The super-G, giant slalom, slalom and super-combined will also be held at Whistler Creekside. "

Same mountain, Whistler, not Blackcomb, different runs

 

[Glenn]

Randomness from me....

What a big difference in how they "outline" the course these days. Now, it's painted. I remember pine boughs just a few yers back.....

 

[Rambo]

were the 2 courses totally seperate? Or parts colocated?

Here is a map of the courses. They merge into a common finish area where all the spectator stands are. GS and Slalom will be held on the lower portion in front of the spectator stands.

 

[jaywbigred]

Interesting and good info everybody!