World Trade Center - The Movie

[hammer]

AZ members never cease to amaze me...I thought I was the only person who was dead set against seeing movies of this type. I'm pleased to see I am very wrong. These things help restore my basic faith in humanity.

I should have added that I too do not watch news and rarely read newspapers. I listen to NPR and take alot of that with a grain of salt. Too much negativity and sensationalism. Various media present the news in a light that's about as objective as reality shows are to reality itself.

Count me in as another one who could care less about any 9/11 movies...

I like it that we have NPR as an option...I think they provide a balance against networks like Fox News (hope that statement wasn't too political). You are correct, however, in that it would be a mistake to think that "news" broadcasts are objective, even in a country like the U.S.

 

[ski_resort_observer]

you are right about other people profitting from the tragedy before now, perhaps that wasn't the right wording. i felt the same way about flight 93, and wasn't surprised to see that movie tank. but i will be surprised to see this one tank. you are right that it hasn't made a profit yet, but if i know my fellow country men well enough, i am sure it will be a financial success. the majority of americans have morbid curiosity about these things and love sensationalism. i don't really think there are any political or social ramifications of making it, i think it is more philosophically oriented dealing with what should or shouldn't be done and why.

I am sure some people want to see the movie out od "morbid curiousity" but poeple like myself have no interest in seeing this movie because I want to watch people die or am curious how they died. This movie is actually more about life and how two people lived thru this tragedy.

If you have no interest in seeing this film, I have alot of respect for that but don't assume you know why other people will see this movie and then disrespect their reasons for doing so.

 

[riverc0il]

SRO, i respect your opinion and desire to see the movie for what you see it as. i stand by my sentiment that the majority of americans are not seeing it for the same reason. you obviously are not part of the majority.

the producers of the film could have taken such a survival story and easily put it in a different context. a good story is a good story regardless of context, but they choose to use the original context. this type of story has been done before with people trapped in elevators, under bridges, etc. the story is nothing new, the context is what is objectionable whether the story is a good one or not.

 

[NYDrew]

I asked a co-worker (now this is construction), if he is going to go see the movie. His answer to me was "why, I lived it," To elaborate, he was on the 9th floor of tower 2 (the first tower). He stopped to go to the bathroom. If he waited to get up to his work area, he would have been above where the plain impacted. However he has no problem with the movie.

I on the other hand found myself thrown deep into the recovery and rebuilding. I had the priveledge to oversee the manufacture of most of the computers used to coordinate the recovery effort. A morbid thought having known speficically what the software being installed was designed for.

Years later, I was again priveledged for a work assignment in the new 7WTC, the first building to rise back up. Just being there and seeing the crator from 56 stories up was enough.

My opinion is that I will go see this movie. I have no problem with it. My father worked on the trade center during the initial construction and the repair from the first bombing, he has no problem with it. No need to boycott this movie, especially if you support that documentary by whats his face the beachball which trivialized the entire event into a political statement only monthes after.

 

[LisaBatt]

will never be ready to see this film

I don't think I will ever be ready to see a film on the tragedy of that day....I can not believe the five year anniversary is upon us. Every August 1st I start thinking about that "DAY". Perhaps it is because my son's classmate (second grade at the time) lost his dad( a Cantor Fitzgerald employee) and every time I would see this little boy .....at school, in town , etc. I get teary and sad. ( His dad was just at our house a few days before with some of my husbands friends, having beer , hangin out, etc. I still can not even go, nor do i want to go, to the WTC area at this time. and perhaps thats because I am a "native" New Yorker ....I don't know It still feels "raw' to me. My town lost four wonderful men that day....3 in the towers and 1 firefighter...

 

[dmc]

I'll never see it...why should I? I lived through that day, not that I was near the towers when it happened.

I have no interest in seeing a reinactment of that day...

I still feel the effects of it... It ripples through our life in ways that may not seem really evident. People close to me are still a little messed up from it mentally.. We lost a few friends up here in Hunter and the gaps are still blaring... Many people I know are still a little messed up from working there afterwords - recovery/construction.. I always here about how they'd find a body and work would stop. Everyone stood silent as they'd take it up the ramp... It's chilling...

One friend ALMOST lost his job on the NYPD because of the way it affected him in the years after..

Other friends on the NYPD have retired at the pay they made in overtime those 2 years... just walked away as soon as they could..

And of course there's SkiDork and what he went through... Which is echo'd by a least a half dozen people I know that we're work in and around there...

Another guy we knew died that day - his wife and kids moved to Park City at the end of last ski season.. they just didn't want to be in the area any more..

The days following the attack - we we're holed up in our apartment so we didn't have to go outside and smell the smoke... We agreed during those horrible days that we were moving from the area.. That's when we agreed to move to Hunter..

It was just an amazing life altering event.. Maybe the movie is good for people not from our area... But to me it's still way too real..

 

[FRITOLAYGUY]

OK so im sure i could have found better things to do on a beautiful day like today but i ended up seeing this Movie with a good friend of mine down in Stamford CT.. Ive seen Farenheit 9/11, and united 93, this movie was much better than both of those, the first 30mintues are great as well as the last.. The middle was so so.. But all in all it was a decent movie, lots of tears throughout the crowd including myself.. Its almost something however i would have rather watched by myself after i left.. Im not gonna sit here and tell you to go out and see it or its a must rent in a few months, but it is something that if you ever watch it will hold your interest because some of us witnessed it first hand or chances are know somebody that has..

 

[ski_resort_observer]

Well, I went to see WTC last night in Montpelier. I found it to be riviting, emotional, contemplative and heartwarming plus knowing that the people who lived thru this were totally involved with making of this movie I felt emotionally enlightened by seeing it.

I was out in Wyoming when it happenned and had very little direct persoanl connection with the event at the time it happened. I was born in NYC but actually never lived there. My father was a retired NYC Police Officer.

 

[RIDEr]

I lived in Hoboken, NJ and worked in Newark, NJ at the time of the attacks with steps from Prudential's corporate office which was one of the targets. I personally have no desire to see the movie; however, I have a good friend that was in the building and saw things that I would have never hoped my worst enemy to see. She is a core member of the family of 9/11 victims committee (the ones that are ensuring the new buildings will ensure people never forget) and they saw the movie before it was released and approved it. It must have been hard for them to decide this and I personally wasn't in the room for the decision, but maybe their thought process was ensuring people never forget...

I see a lot of people these days who visit the WTC grounds truely DON'T KNOW THE DAY. I respect everybody's thoughts on this day and understand that no matter if you were directly effected by this day or not you may have strong feelings on it... HOWEVER, I want people to not only know the day... KNOW THE EVENT that happened that day and ensure the same feelings are never forgotten.

 

[NYDrew]

I see a lot of people these days who visit the WTC grounds truely DON'T KNOW THE DAY. I respect everybody's thoughts on this day and understand that no matter if you were directly effected by this day or not you may have strong feelings on it... HOWEVER, I want people to not only know the day... KNOW THE EVENT that happened that day and ensure the same feelings are never forgotten.

On the people who don't know what actually happened that day, I have a comment. That week was my first week outside of the NY metro area (besides a few vacations). The hardest part for me was to be to far away to help. I just got accepted to a volunteer FD that responded, yet I wasn't there. Perhaps that is why I became so involved in recovery-rebuild.

When I helped rebuild tower 7, I often spent my lunch time reflecting by the gates, asking myself why I was there. Hatred grew inside. Not just for those who caused the disaster, but for those who visited the gravesite with camaras and family on tour busses. The disrespect displayed. Perhaps the contribution this movie will leave will be an understanding for those not involved. The knowledge not to bring a camara, or to act joyous at the site.

Everyday I look at my arm where I have a scar from rebuilding. It reminds me what must be done and why people like Michael Moore are not much better then bin laden himself, and perheps why we need this movie.

Like I said in past posts. I will go see the movie, to hear another story of a life that was touched by the events of 9/11/01.

 

[riverc0il]

I see a lot of people these days who visit the WTC grounds truely DON'T KNOW THE DAY. I respect everybody's thoughts on this day and understand that no matter if you were directly effected by this day or not you may have strong feelings on it... HOWEVER, I want people to not only know the day... KNOW THE EVENT that happened that day and ensure the same feelings are never forgotten.

interestingly enough, from a historical perspective, most such important events that have a high degree of contemporary familiarity usually slide away into distance memory after a few generations. i wonder if our grandparents think similar thoughts about young people who don't know the date pearl harbor was bombed or the significance of the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month. dates are less important to me than what they mean. i would much rather people not remember the date but get the facts right about the attack, such as the misconception that any iraqis were involved in any of the flights on that day. sometimes we worry and concentrate so much on the little things that don't really mean that much that we forget the really important details. it was something that always bugged me during high school history classes when studying dates that i knew i would forget the next day instead of focusing on what really mattered such as the social, political, cultural, etc. ramifications of the past, espeically if relevent to the present, etc.

then again, chances are in contemporary times that if people don't remember a date that has gotten more press than the fourth of july in the past nearly five years, i would be surprised if they really remembered (if they even knew in the first place) many of the exact details.

here is a fun historical fact for those that think dates are really important, the declaration of independance was officially ratified on july 4th, but the official "declaration" that our country was independant was made two days prior. theoretically, our data of independance as a nation is july 2nd. the declaraction wasn't actually officially signed by all parties until a month after its presentation. does it matter? not particularly. any one remember the date of the "shot heard round the world" in concord that started the revolutionary war? no disrespect intended towards the victims and those involved with 9/11, i am mearly suggesting that accurately remembering historical events of cultural importance need not include accurate memory of the date for people to understand the implications.

 

[ctenidae]

A history course I took not too long ago wsa titled "Modern Western Civilization 1783-Present"

Someone in the class asked why 1783, and the professor didn't know. I sat stunned for a bit as the class moved on a little, but couldn't help it after a while, and finally had to interrupt. For the students not to know is one thing, but for a history professor not to know that the American Revolutionary War officially ended with Britain recognizing the independence of the US in 1783 was beyond the pale. I mean, it's the beginning of rule by law and paper governments, and really the beginning of western civilization as we know it. Kind of an important date.

Sometimes, actually knowing what happened on December 7th 1941 or when the Treaty of Versaille was signed is practical, if only to affix the timeline accurately. It's hard to say what caused what if you don't know when either happened.

 

[SnowRider]

For a family that lost a loved one, yes.

For a person that just witnnessed it, depends on what they saw.

It really doesnt matter. It's a person personal choice to see the movie or not. I do think it might be a little to early.