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Vermont Skier Visits Down Significantly Due to COVID-19

boston_e

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The "COVID fear porn factor" in some is very high, and will take a long time for it to go away in some select folks for sure.

One can certainly make the case that at times, the leanings of one preferred news sources were an advantage to get people to take COVID seriously, whereas now as the urgent, emergency status of the COVID pandemic shifts into a non emergency endemic situation for this country, many of those same news sources that scared the living daylights out of some, will have a tough time getting those same people to accept that it actually is OK to live a pretty normal life again.
I'd guess for most it is not a high fear factory anymore so much as habit, not being 100% sure on what the rules are and erring on the side of masking up, or simply forgetfulness. I admit I've had plenty of times since the outdoor masking has lifted where I've left a store and simply forgotten that I have the mask still on.
 

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I have an elderly housing project in my neighborhood. I watch car after car drive out of there with the driver, the only occupant, still wearing their mask. I'll bet they don't get that far before they remember to take it off, so habit is having some effect here.
 

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I find it interesting - MA had an outdoor mask mandate which did not make sense to us. We generally only masked up indoors. We did get some looks for sure. Now the outdoor mask mandate has been lifted and we see people wearing masks everywhere. That must be do to lack of knowledge and they have not heard the news or they are fearful. I do not understand it otherwise.
Shouldn't come as a shock. The news has spent the last 12+ months needlessly scaring the hell out of people to make money
 

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I find it interesting - MA had an outdoor mask mandate which did not make sense to us. We generally only masked up indoors. We did get some looks for sure. Now the outdoor mask mandate has been lifted and we see people wearing masks everywhere. That must be do to lack of knowledge and they have not heard the news or they are fearful. I do not understand it otherwise.

Masks have become left-wing, virtue signaling performance art.
It's like a very liberal person's red MAGA hat, which is why you'll notice this is only still occurring in very blue areas.
 

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Masks have become left-wing, virtue signaling performance art.
It's like a very liberal person's red MAGA hat, which is why you'll notice this is only still occurring in very blue areas.
“I feel the need to continue wearing my mask outside even though I’m fully vaccinated because the inconvenience of having to wear a mask is more than worth it to have people not think I’m a conservative,”
 

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The subway cars are totally plastered with wear a mask signs....Metro North announcements all the time about wearing one..or get removed from the train...
 

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The subway cars are totally plastered with wear a mask signs....Metro North announcements all the time about wearing one..or get removed from the train...
Well, the federal mandate to wear on all modes of public transit is still in effect. That won't come down until mid September as it stands now.
 

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I suspect Fauci's early lies about the inefficacy of mask use (I wonder how many people died because of that) leads some people to regard the CDC's claims that masks are not needed for fully vaccinated people as just another ham-fisted attempt at social engineering.
 

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I suspect Fauci's early lies about the inefficacy of mask use (I wonder how many people died because of that) leads some people to regard the CDC's claims that masks are not needed for fully vaccinated people as just another ham-fisted attempt at social engineering.
Or a mask is just something you out on when a business owner asks you to when you come into his place of business and you are not a dick?
 

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Or a mask is just something you out on when a business owner asks you to when you come into his place of business and you are not a dick?
The question I was addressing is why people continue to wear masks when and where it's not mandated. I don't think it's correct to view all or even the majority of voluntary mask wearers as virtue signaling. Blue areas were hit very hard by the pandemic early on and conflicting statements by public health figures throughout the pandemic on the efficacy of masks makes it hard to trust them when they now say masks are unnecessary. Continuing concern for one's health (whether or not reasonable) seems like a much better explanation for continued mask-wearing at this point.

There is certainly no excuse for not wearing a mask where a business owner requires it.
 

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The question I was addressing is why people continue to wear masks when and where it's not mandated. I don't think it's correct to view all or even the majority of voluntary mask wearers as virtue signaling. Blue areas were hit very hard by the pandemic early on and conflicting statements by public health figures throughout the pandemic on the efficacy of masks makes it hard to trust them when they now say masks are unnecessary. Continuing concern for one's health (whether or not reasonable) seems like a much better explanation for continued mask-wearing at this point.

There is certainly no excuse for not wearing a mask where a business owner requires it.
Fair enough, but people also have to realize that any conflicting statements regarding the effectiveness of mask were not "lies" (as you called them) but rather was the best guidance available based on the information they had for what was a very unknown virus. Obviously we have learned a lot more about it over time and know much more know than was known in the early stages and naturally guidance can change as more research is done.

As to why people still wear masks when not mandated, as I mentioned before, I'd guess for the most part it is simply habit, not knowing what the actual guidelines are and just erring on the side of caution or simply forgetting they even have it on or that the guidance has changed.
 

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listen if you want to wear a mask cool if you don't cool. It doesn't need to be a political statement. even if it is who cares... Many Asians still wore masks after the bird flu and swine flu things a number of years ago. I hate wearing a mask I did when it was required I likely won't when it isn't. I may in certain situations, but probably not.
 

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listen if you want to wear a mask cool if you don't cool. It doesn't need to be a political statement. even if it is who cares... Many Asians still wore masks after the bird flu and swine flu things a number of years ago. I hate wearing a mask I did when it was required I likely won't when it isn't. I may in certain situations, but probably not.

One thing for sure, nobody will ever look like a freak wearing a mask on a plane going forward...
 

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Fair enough, but people also have to realize that any conflicting statements regarding the effectiveness of mask were not "lies" (as you called them) but rather was the best guidance available based on the information they had for what was a very unknown virus.
Subsequent statements from Fauci made it pretty clear that he discouraged mask use early on not because he did not believe masks were effective but because he wanted to discourage hoarding of PPE. Noble lies are still lies and, in this case, probably led to a net increase in deaths.
 

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Subsequent statements from Fauci made it pretty clear that he discouraged mask use early on not because he did not believe masks were effective but because he wanted to discourage hoarding of PPE. Noble lies are still lies and, in this case, probably led to a net increase in deaths.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions...
 

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Subsequent statements from Fauci made it pretty clear that he discouraged mask use early on not because he did not believe masks were effective but because he wanted to discourage hoarding of PPE. Noble lies are still lies and, in this case, probably led to a net increase in deaths.
Nothing that guy says should ever be taken seriously ever again.
 

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Subsequent statements from Fauci made it pretty clear that he discouraged mask use early on not because he did not believe masks were effective but because he wanted to discourage hoarding of PPE. Noble lies are still lies and, in this case, probably led to a net increase in deaths.
Such a pathetic excuse from Fauci . Could have been done honestly ...Foreign to him ? He could have gone to the nearest microphone and said . "America we need your help ,please bring your N95 masks to the nearest hospital " They would have as many as they needed .
 

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Most folks (75%) are still wearing a mask in downtown Boston.
Especially in Chinatown. But they've been doing that for at least 10 years...
 
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