Electrical Rates Skyrocket

[machski]

Here's the first shot across the bow due to soaring electrical Rates. Wonder how this will affect ski area operations across the landscape this year.

Cannon Seeks Approval for $109 Lift Ticket Rate - NewEnglandSkiIndustry.com

www.newenglandskiindustry.com

 

[IceEidolon]

Does anyone have insight to what resorts are now paying per kWh beyond just Cannon?

 

[Rob Katz]

Here's the first shot across the bow due to soaring electrical Rates. Wonder how this will affect ski area operations across the landscape this year.

Cannon Seeks Approval for $109 Lift Ticket Rate - NewEnglandSkiIndustry.com

www.newenglandskiindustry.com

that sucks (cannon). surprised it took this long to start happening though, much worse in europe.

 

[RichT]

The government is pushing the "green new deal", did you really think that the price of electricity would stay the same? Heck I'd be willing to say that electricity will become even more costly than fossil fuels. If the "green new deal" makes it (which I have my doubts about).

 

[IceEidolon]

The government is pushing the "green new deal", did you really think that the price of electricity would stay the same? Heck I'd be willing to say that electricity will become even more costly than fossil fuels. If the "green new deal" makes it (which I have my doubts about).

And Chicago has embargoed our wind, Venus has cut our solar shipments, this is driving our energy prices up. Clearly.

 

[MidnightJester]

When Electricity is eventually 50c a Kilowatt or more its already more expensive then the Fossil fuels currently producing it if you have a ready source. Around some locations it can cost towards $100 to fast fill a electric car or truck at a paid E-station(1 hour or more to charge) and not get anywhere near the distance or cost of gas(5 minutes to fill) in the warm and forget about the cold. The Green thinking Company's & Governments would love to have it as high as possible so you use less. They don't want cheap Electricity or Fuels of any type.

Anyone doing distance driving of multiple hundred of miles into the cold and mountains in a Electric car/truck are pushing the limits of current electric technology. Even (150) miles one way in a Electric vehicle in the freezing cold & up hill is a Risky trip. Electric cars have no on road/side of road charging(fueling) ability which is a terrible handicap

Does anyone know or has anyone heard of any true downward movement on any electric prices anywhere in the US?
They have only raised or gone up on Electric costs. Both supply and delivery(which are separate where I live) which by me are 12c and 13c for a total of 25c a Kilowatt aprox (Long Island, NY)

 

[Newpylong]

Our supply doubled, it's at .23/kWh. If I shopped it from default, maybe .19/kWh. It is ironic that the coal plants and some nuclear generating stations have been decommissioned because they were not competitive on the market. But now we are pretty much held hostage by natural gas prices with no alternatives.

 

[x10003q]

There is plenty of capacity in Hydro Quebec. There are political actions from US generators and local nimbys that fight access.
Here is an example in Maine:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/maine-court-energy-export-quebec-1.6566934

 

[x10003q]

NH rejected a power line from Hydro Quebec a few years ago:

Concord Monitor

The Concord Monitor is a Pulitzer Prize winning daily newspaper and website located in the capital city of New Hampshire. The Concord Monitor is Central NH's dominant media with more than 70 percent household penetration. The Monitor is a key source of news and information for Concord, NH.

www.concordmonitor.com

 

[jimmywilson69]

The move from nuclear is ridiculous... and by the way natural gas is like 1% cleaner than coal...

 

[x10003q]

The move from nuclear is ridiculous... and by the way natural gas is like 1% cleaner than coal...

Not even close. Natural gas is way cleaner than coal. Nuclear should be one of the answers.

Natural gas and the environment - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

Environmental issues, effects, and impacts of natural gas production and use.

www.eia.gov

 

[Kingslug20]

Nuclear tech has come a long way...but most don't know that. So they don't want it around them...this will take a while if ever to change.

 

[x10003q]

Nuclear tech has come a long way...but most don't know that. So they don't want it around them...this will take a while if ever to change.

Small Modular reactors could be retrofitted into coal plant sites. It is just taking forever.

What are Small Modular Reactors (SMRs)?

Small modular reactors (SMRs) are advanced nuclear reactors that have a power capacity of up to 300 MW(e) per unit, which is about one-third of the generating capacity of traditional nuclear power reactors.

www.iaea.org

 

[bigbob]

Does anyone have insight to what resorts are now paying per kWh beyond just Cannon?

Eversource in NH is about $0.22/ KWH for the electricity and about $0.10 for the delivery for a total of $0.32/ KWH. This is for residential, I don't know what each resort has negotiated for their wholesale rates. It was over a 100% increase on the energy side of the bill.

 

[bigbob]

There is plenty of capacity in Hydro Quebec. There are political actions from US generators and local nimbys that fight access.
Here is an example in Maine:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/maine-court-energy-export-quebec-1.6566934

That would be the fastest way to get clean cheap electricity to replace natural gas generation.

 

[Granite1]

The government is pushing the "green new deal", did you really think that the price of electricity would stay the same? Heck I'd be willing to say that electricity will become even more costly than fossil fuels. If the "green new deal" makes it (which I have my doubts about).

It won't be too much longer for attempts to ban skiing (and golf) by the green new deal socialist propagandist. Just a matter of time. Even worse for them, the two sports are primarily done by white men----oh my God (I mean mother earth).

 

[Newpylong]

As much as I may agree with some of that, I'm not interested in it here.

 

[Hastur]

It won't be too much longer for attempts to ban skiing (and golf) by the green new deal socialist propagandist. Just a matter of time. Even worse for them, the two sports are primarily done by white men----oh my God (I mean mother earth).

after they are done banning skiing and golf the woke mob will probably try and turn you Trans and make you join black lives matter.

#resist

 

[drjeff]

after they are done banning skiing and golf the woke mob will probably try and turn you Trans and make you join black lives matter.

#resist

Starting to realize that the woke mob won't be satisfied (notice how I didn't say happy) until everyone is as miserable as they appear to be.

Best way to piss the woke off is to ignore them and just live an enjoyable life

 

[jimmywilson69]

Lots of Miserable folks who have nothing to do but complain on social media.

Disconnect...