Bill Belichick is a Jerk

[jack97]

Agreed, I lost a ton of respect for Sir Charles after his "I'm not a role model" bit. Sorry, guys, like it or not, being a public figure means being a role model.

I know nobody thinks athletes should be role models, but there are kids watching who mimic what these overpaid brats do...and that I do not like at all.

This is the point I'm wrestling with. Lets not lose sight of the fact thet we live in an age where the media scrutinizes ever possible moments of these public figures. I sometimes wonder what would happen if JFK was monitored so closely, his womanizing issues would be front page of every newpaper. Another example, look at a great scientist like Einstein, a hero among the brainy group. He was a lousy father, his wife left him and his son disowned him because of his quest to find the secrets of the universe. BTW, he re-married his (second) cousin... good material for the tabloids.

 

[Paul]

This is the point I'm wrestling with. Lets not lose sight of the fact thet we live in an age where the media scrutinizes ever possible moments of these public figures. I sometimes wonder what would happen if JFK was monitored so closely, his womanizing issues would be front page of every newpaper. Another example, look at a great scientist like Einstein, a hero among the brainy group. He was a lousy father, his wife left him and his son disowned him because of his quest to find the secrets of the universe. BTW, he re-married his (second) cousin... good material for the tabloids.

Excellent points. Only trouble is that we're comparing different eras. Mickey Mantle was an alcoholic, Ted Williams was an asshole.... The media then, would protect public figures, instead of deconstructing them as they do now. Its an unfortunate sign of the times that people like JFK, or Einstein, or the Babe, or Ty Cobb would be portrayed as heroic, while they had some nasty skeletons in their closets, and now people like Clinton, and Kobe, and T.O., and McGuire are portayed as anything but.

 

[JimG.]

This is the point I'm wrestling with. Lets not lose sight of the fact thet we live in an age where the media scrutinizes ever possible moments of these public figures. I sometimes wonder what would happen if JFK was monitored so closely, his womanizing issues would be front page of every newpaper. Another example, look at a great scientist like Einstein, a hero among the brainy group. He was a lousy father, his wife left him and his son disowned him because of his quest to find the secrets of the universe. BTW, he re-married his (second) cousin... good material for the tabloids.

Don't forget that Einstein was a terrible student and failed math regularly.

I can't blame the media for the Belichick thing though...coaches have been meeting at midfield for the gentlemenly post game handshakes even during the days of radio. And he knew very well that the cameras were on him, in fact waiting for him to do something like that. If you overthink it you might even conclude he did it purposely knowing the cameras were on him.

No excuses.

 

[Paul]

Don't forget that Einstein was a terrible student and failed math regularly.

I can't blame the media for the Belichick thing though...coaches have been meeting at midfield for the gentlemenly post game handshakes even during the days of radio. And he knew very well that the cameras were on him, in fact waiting for him to do something like that. If you overthink it you might even conclude he did it purposely knowing the cameras were on him.

No excuses.

True.

Its also interesting to note that in Hockey, Football, and Boxing, sports where people are beating the tar out of each other, they shake hands at the end of the contest. Baseball, where they joke around in the bases, and other than that, have little contact with each other, only the winning team "high-fives" themselves.

I've always found that unsportsmanlike. After-all, Little-league teams congratulate each other.

 

[jack97]

...coaches have been meeting at midfield for the gentlemenly post game handshakes even during the days of radio. And he knew very well that the cameras were on him, in fact waiting for him to do something like that. If you overthink it you might even conclude he did it purposely knowing the cameras were on him.

No excuses.

I agree, Belichick being a historian of the game should have known better, so it does make me wonder something else is going on. He's old school, hard nose and keep grudges away from the public.

 

[FRITOLAYGUY]

I agree also Reggie Bush was an idiot, i wish he got hurt doing that stupid flip he does, now that would have been nice to see. I will let that go this year seeing its youthful excitement, but if he does that again hes an idiot.

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

I agree also Reggie Bush was an idiot, i wish he got hurt doing that stupid flip he does, now that would have been nice to see. I will let that go this year seeing its youthful excitement, but if he does that again hes an idiot.

Bush apologized and said he got caught up in the moment. He did the right thing after he did the wrong thing. He’s a young man who realizes he made a mistake. Works for me.

 

[Paul]

Bush apologized and said he got caught up in the moment. He did the right thing after he did the wrong thing. He’s a young man who realizes he made a mistake. Works for me.

He gets a pass this time, but would he have been as apologetic if the Saints had won?

Hmmmmmm.....

 

[JimG.]

He gets a pass this time, but would he have been as apologetic if the Saints had won?

Hmmmmmm.....

Hopefully he is as smart as he is talented...that play swung the momentum to the Saints but his antics pissed the Bears off so much that they shut the Saints down after that.

I'm guessing one of the Saint's wily veterans had a little chat with Reggie after the game about how those things can cost you a game in the NFL.

 

[FRITOLAYGUY]

Bush apologized and said he got caught up in the moment. He did the right thing after he did the wrong thing. He’s a young man who realizes he made a mistake. Works for me.

Ok i did not hear the apology, but still i saw him do that at least 5times at USC and i never heard him apologize then.

 

[jack97]

I just found the vid on the handshake. In my book, it doesn't look like he snub Peyton. Looks some one got inbetween them when Peyton tried to shake, then they acknowledge each other and who knows Belichick could have given Peyton a pat on the tummy like they way Peyton patting him. Hard to say given the angle. Given a choice I would rather get my tummy patted on than my @ss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s5vIkdnwqg

 

[Paul]

Given a choice I would rather get my tummy patted on than my @ss.

Especially when the patter looks like a railyard hobo. :-D

 

[jack97]

Especially when the patter looks like a railyard hobo. :-D

Hey watch it, he dresses better than me.

 

[FRITOLAYGUY]

Ya thats one thing i cant stand, there are only 32 of those jobs, you represent an organization, dress at least in docker pants and a collared shirt, damn.

 

[Paul]

Hey watch it, he dresses better than me.

Are you a nudist?

Best dressed coach in the NFL. THe man brought back the SUIT!!

Black is "Slimming"

Who wants free soup? I Do!!!!!!

 

[hammer]

Who wants free soup? I Do!!!!!!

No soup for you!

 

[FRITOLAYGUY]

lol good stuff hammer

 

[Paul]

lol good stuff hammer

Seconded! Nice one.

Need to make a "No Lombardi for you, Not yours!" pic. ;-)

 

[JimG.]

I just found the vid on the handshake. In my book, it doesn't look like he snub Peyton. Looks some one got inbetween them when Peyton tried to shake, then they acknowledge each other and who knows Belichick could have given Peyton a pat on the tummy like they way Peyton patting him. Hard to say given the angle. Given a choice I would rather get my tummy patted on than my @ss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s5vIkdnwqg

Again, the fact that you have to study the video to draw a conclusion is really the issue here. Belichick must have known the cameras were on him and that folks were waiting for something controversial.

Wouldn't it have made more sense from a sportsmanship viewpoint to just reach out and shake the guy's hand to put the issue to rest?

 

[jack97]

Again, the fact that you have to study the video to draw a conclusion is really the issue here. Belichick must have known the cameras were on him and that folks were waiting for something controversial.

Wouldn't it have made more sense from a sportsmanship viewpoint to just reach out and shake the guy's hand to put the issue to rest?

I didn't see the thing live, turn off the TV after brady's pick. The vid shows they acknowledge each other and could of make quick shake. To me much ado about nothing.