Just saw this on KZone. As folks who ski Jay know, there is already too much traffic over at Big Jay. But these guys actually cut a 60 foot wood swath, 3/4 of a mile in length with the intent of skiing it! 
The article.
The article.
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From KZone: Guerilla Trailblazers Arrested
- Thread starter thetrailboss
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Ha, looks like someone got a little carried away. :dunce: Low branches and shrubs just weren't enough. 'Cause no one will notice clear cutting on the side of a mountain. :roll:
Hopefully there won't be a backlash on the careful back country pruners.
Hopefully there won't be a backlash on the careful back country pruners.
millerm277
Well-known member
You've gotta wonder what they were thinking....I'm sure no one will notice a giant ski trail cut through the protected forest below a major mountain peak...
Seriously, that must have taken a LOT of time and effort, that's a lot of trees if it's really 60 feet wide, and moving them off the trail will either require heavy equipment, or a lot of cutting.
However, now that the damage has been done, it would be a shame to let their efforts go to waste....hopefully it wasn't south-facing.
Seriously, that must have taken a LOT of time and effort, that's a lot of trees if it's really 60 feet wide, and moving them off the trail will either require heavy equipment, or a lot of cutting.
However, now that the damage has been done, it would be a shame to let their efforts go to waste....hopefully it wasn't south-facing.
twinplanx
Active member
yeah seriously 60' is a bit much
David Metsky
New member
Actually I really hope it grows back in. People will certainly ski it, but no additional pruning. The forest will reclaim it soon enough. It's adventures like this and the illegal trail cut to Big Jay from the ski area that is going to result on some serious crackdowns.
awf170
New member
I highly doubt that it was clear cut. It was probably a 60 ft. wide glade.
[Scratches head]
Well, it does say this in the article:
Doesn't sound like a glade to me....
riverc0il
New member
I don't think the article provides an accurate description to draw a conclusion either way regarding if it was clear cut or just gladed out. The article only states the cutting was sixty feet wide. I suspect the number is exaggerated. If it is a clear cut, I find it really hard to believe two people could clear that much acreage. They would almost certainly have needed powder tools and assistance moving fallen trees. If this truly is accurately report as a clear cut sixty foot wide swath that runs 3/4 a mile long, these guys should get the book thrown at them. That is beyond reckless.
Anyone in the neighborhood who can run/hike by and take some pics for us? That should settle what was going on.
Even if they were not clear cutting, they must been a little over enthusiastic with the glading. Don't they look the other way most of the time when folks are doing a little pruning up that way?
Even if they were not clear cutting, they must been a little over enthusiastic with the glading. Don't they look the other way most of the time when folks are doing a little pruning up that way?
millerm277
Well-known member
I agree, especially since it will probably result in areas being less lenient to the off-season pruners, that keep a lot of tree runs skiable.
Admittedly we don't know. By the sound of it, the mess is extensive and they caught the guys who did it.
Powder tools? :lol: Someone is jonesin'!!!! :lol:
Powder tools? :lol: Someone is jonesin'!!!! :lol:
riverc0il
New member
Oops, that was a really bad slip. I was converting my 04-05 season trip reports today and had powder on the brain. That would be power tools, of course, a complete and total no no for more appropriate and subtle brushing.
As I said, you are jonesin' to ski. :wink:
twinplanx
Active member
well with the width of the trail maybe they were planning on some "powder tools"
kingdom-tele
New member
was up on jay for the jay challenge cheering a friend on - having heard about investigation and the details from one of the state workers i too couldn't believe it when he said it was clear cut...
well, it is, there is now a huge open gash on big jay, it is awful, and sad, i can only wonder how it will effect the drainage of heavy rain and snow over the years, land slide does not seem out of the question, you can now drive my VW down the face of big jay
everyone be careful this fall heading into the woods with loppers - and be smart, if you have to chop it down then it isn't the right way
well, it is, there is now a huge open gash on big jay, it is awful, and sad, i can only wonder how it will effect the drainage of heavy rain and snow over the years, land slide does not seem out of the question, you can now drive my VW down the face of big jay
everyone be careful this fall heading into the woods with loppers - and be smart, if you have to chop it down then it isn't the right way
That is really sad to hear that it is indeed clear cut. I wonder how long they were working on it?
Wow! I hope they throw the book at them, they probably screwed things up for everyone for several years.
Are the authorities sure they were doing this for skiing? It could have been an illegal logging operation? Either way they were not too bright.
David Metsky
New member
There's no way to haul logs out from there, and they are literally 1000's of places much easier to get wood from. It's for skiing, no other reason to cut up there.
Makes you wonder what they did with all the lumber?
David Metsky
New member
From what it sounds like, just tossed it to the sides.
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