Just say no to beer tax increases

[Glenn]

Re: Taxing weed.

We don't need to give the goverment more money. They're doing just fine wasting what they steal from us now. :-?

 

[Marc]

One of the (then) Big 5 accounting firms got into trouble for doing the analysis for Romania or Bulgaria, or somesuch, and then doing it on teh US for funsies. Found that "early" deaths saved a whole boatload of money. Of course, by that logic, they should eliminate seatbelt, helmet, speed limit, and all sorts of other "safety" laws.

Safety laws that potentially impact the safety of others, yes. Motorcycle helmets and car seatbelts don't really impact the safety of others, so I think the chain of logic can be correctly extended there.

Speed limits, when done correctly, protect other people from offending parties, so I don't think there's a parallel.

 

[wa-loaf]

Personally, I don't like supermarkets and convenience stores selling beer. I think it negatively impacts teh variety available- if the liquor stores that have shelf space for good beer can't make their nut on cheep beer, they can't devote space to good beer. CT has the worst beer selection of anywhere I've ever seen, except maybe Arkansas.

Supermarkets (and convenience stores, and gas stations ...) in Maine sell beer and booze. The supermarkets themselves have pretty good selections and there are still thriving liquor stores with great selections.

 

[campgottagopee]

Fiddy cent is a small price to pay for such goodness---cheers

 

[thetrailboss]

But Gambling is A-OK!!

Well, technically note because those casinos aren't on state territory....they are on Native American land and those tribes are now rrrrrrriiiiccccchhhhh!

 

[Paul]

Well, technically note because those casinos aren't on state territory....they are on Native American land and those tribes are now rrrrrrriiiiccccchhhhh!

Oh no, TB, it's all about the Keno now :smile:

 

[ctenidae]

Fiddy cent is a small price to pay for such goodness---cheers

Yeah, but it's another 6% on top of the already 40% of the price that goes to taxes. Where does it stop, man? Where does it stop?

 

[thetrailboss]

Oh no, TB, it's all about the Keno now :smile:

Ah yes, should have known that!

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

Supermarkets (and convenience stores, and gas stations ...) in Maine sell beer and booze. The supermarkets themselves have pretty good selections and there are still thriving liquor stores with great selections.

When I lived in Saco Maine in a motel on Route 1..there was a mini-mart right next-door..it was sweet..and they had a decent 40 selection..The cashier would laugh when I'd come back an hour later for another 40..she was like,"You know you can get two at once"..lol...mmmm...beer...wonderful beer..I've been off the wagon almost 20 hours and I feel all clearheaded..:beer:

 

[drjeff]

we don't need to give the goverment more money. They're doing just fine wasting what they steal from us now. :-?

+1000!!!!

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

I sort of feel like we have it good compared to other countries with respect to taxes...including sales tax, state and federal...property taxes are absurd but the public school system in America is wonderful and is producing the leaders of tomorrow. I sort of dislike the concept of tipping..that is a big freaking tax..You give a bartender a buck to pour you a beer..but what about at Starbucks or Dunkin Donuts or Mickey D's...yet I was a paperboy for 4 years and wouldn't have made it that long if not for some generous subscribers..

I miss living in Montana for zero sales tax. A 99 cent bag of Nacho Steeze Doritos is $1.05 here..that 6 cents is giving the congressmen extra for hookers and blow..it's a dog eat dog world..just trying to get that piece of the pie..living the dream..

 

[Riverskier]

Supermarkets (and convenience stores, and gas stations ...) in Maine sell beer and booze. The supermarkets themselves have pretty good selections and there are still thriving liquor stores with great selections.

Not to mention, in Maine you can buy beer until 1am 7 days a week. I couldn't imagine having to plan to drink on a Sunday, or not being able to make a midnight beer run.

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

Not to mention, in Maine you can buy beer until 1am 7 days a week. I couldn't imagine having to plan to drink on a Sunday, or not being able to make a midnight beer run.

you get used to stocking up on beer here in PA..beer distributors close at 5PM on a Sunday and 9PM during the week..

 

[ctenidae]

I sort of feel like we have it good compared to other countries with respect to taxes...including sales tax, state and federal...property taxes are absurd but the public school system in America is wonderful and is producing the leaders of tomorrow. I sort of dislike the concept of tipping..that is a big freaking tax..You give a bartender a buck to pour you a beer..but what about at Starbucks or QUOTE]

Waitstaff make about $2 an hour, bartenders little more. Starbucks pays more like $8 for counter help. If waitstaff got paid more, the cost would be passed through to you on your food bill.

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

I sort of feel like we have it good compared to other countries with respect to taxes...including sales tax, state and federal...property taxes are absurd but the public school system in America is wonderful and is producing the leaders of tomorrow. I sort of dislike the concept of tipping..that is a big freaking tax..You give a bartender a buck to pour you a beer..but what about at Starbucks or QUOTE]

Waitstaff make about $2 an hour, bartenders little more. Starbucks pays more like $8 for counter help. If waitstaff got paid more, the cost would be passed through to you on your food bill.

I know..I just tip extra good at the spots I frequent and then see deep discounts..:beer:

 

[Riverskier]

you get used to stocking up on beer here in PA..beer distributors close at 5PM on a Sunday and 9PM during the week..

I guess you have to get used to it, and that really wouldn't be a problem for me now. Back in my younger party days though, we would often have a seemingly endless amount of beer, but would still end up making a late night beer run.

 

[mondeo]

Well, technically note because those casinos aren't on state territory....they are on Native American land and those tribes are now rrrrrrriiiiccccchhhhh!

I say if they want to be treated like independant nations, we treat them like independant nations.

Which means border patrols, customs duties, passports, etc. I don't care that their great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandpa was displaced by the White man, my family was still in Europe. Why should they get the benefits of the taxes I pay? One way or the orther, make your choice.

 

[mondeo]

But atleast in NY, even if you have to goto 2 places, buy booze on that Sunday aftternoon when some friends unexpectedly drop by, or run out at 10PM when that small gathering of friends turns into a much larger event!

I remember very vividly my 1st indoctrination to CT's "blue laws" I had just finished college (went to school in New York State) and was moving into the condo that I was going to be living in with 2 other roomates (both of whom had just graduated college in New York State also) outside of Hartford. Got the keys to the place on a Saturday. We had all finished moving our stuff in about 8PM. Figured we got and and buy some beers and just relax. Get the the local liquor store about 8:15 that Saturday night. Closed, locked up, lights off, WTF!!!

I just say, atleast give the CT "adult beverage" merchants the option to be open 7 days a week until say 10PM. Then if they so choose to be open, becuase it's econmically viable, great.

NY has what I think is a decent step away from blue laws. Liquor stores have to be closed one day a week, not between midnight and 6AM or noon on Sunday. Makes more sense than just banning the sale of alcohol altogether on Sundays. Liquor stores used to be closed on Sundays but you could still buy beer.

The best beer store I've been to is in NY, near Rochester (there are a few others like it that I'm aware of.) All they sell is beer, but over 700 different types. I suspect that if you make packy stores harder to operate, you may actually get some consolidation which means bigger stores so that 10% of the store devoted to good beer becomes larger in absolute terms, providing more variety.

I feel like if cigs are legal..weed should be as well..but tax the hell out of it..

Exactly. Tax it at the same 30% we tax everything else at.

 

[wa-loaf]

I guess you have to get used to it, and that really wouldn't be a problem for me now. Back in my younger party days though, we would often have a seemingly endless amount of beer, but would still end up making a late night beer run.

I spent a couple summers in Bar Harbor and we would hang out at the bar and then send someone out at 12:45 to pick up booze for the after party.

Joka's in Waterville used to deliver kegs and booze right to your dorm room back in the day. They probably can't do that anymore ...

 

[RootDKJ]

WTF is up with the 8 pm closing, too? Not being able to hit the beer store on my way home from work sucks.

Not to mention, in Maine you can buy beer until 1am 7 days a week. I couldn't imagine having to plan to drink on a Sunday, or not being able to make a midnight beer run.

There's a convenience store not to far from me that sells beer 24hrs.

On my unsuccessful quest for Imperial Stout the other day, one of the stores I went to had a new sign explaining that they will be now be open to midnight 7 days a week, but can only sell beer and wine after 10pm

I feel like if cigs are legal..weed should be as well..but tax the hell out of it..

one can only hope...