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Whiteface & Gore: 04/09 & 04/10

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My first time skiing in New York and I couldn't have picked a better weekend!

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Nicely done Steve -- what were your impressions ?

Need to get back there sometime. I have been trying the last couple of years to meet up with my niece's fiancé. Weather has not helped with the 6 hour drive. If I do Warp, we meet up at Titus too.
 

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Your write up are always excellent. It was interesting to get an outsiders point of view of these areas as I know nothing at all about them but have always been curious. One of these days....
 

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Nice!

Never knew you tellied. Just thought you had AT gear to get up hills.

Totally jealous. Hope my experience over there someday is equally as fine. I salivated looking at those mountains all through college at UVM. Never made the trip. Perhaps next season.
 

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There appears to be a lot of untracked and very cool terrain above where River is skiing here. Any reason it wasn't skied? Off limits? Too much of a pain to hike too?
Not me skiing but there certainly was terrain worth hiking for above the traverse. But... when you have a chairlift providing you laps during a very limited window, why waste two potential runs hiking for a couple extra vertical feet? There were a lot of low knee chopping conifers higher up... a few lines looked good. Again, it just wasn't worth it. They only had the Slides open for a few hours. I'd rather lap as many as possible rather than hike for just one or two long runs.
 

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I don't. Those are pictures I took of Harv.

Not me skiing but there certainly was terrain worth hiking for above the traverse. But... when you have a chairlift providing you laps during a very limited window, why waste two potential runs hiking for a couple extra vertical feet? There were a lot of low knee chopping conifers higher up... a few lines looked good. Again, it just wasn't worth it. They only had the Slides open for a few hours. I'd rather lap as many as possible rather than hike for just one or two long runs.

My bad. Saw the Black Jacket and it looked similar to the one you had at the Loaf.

I totally get wanting to grab laps when you can. Exact reason why I was skiing Wildcat this Sunday instead of hoofing it up across the street.

I just look at that photo and see some pretty sweet lines. Just curious if the locals ski it much.
 

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Your not allowed to hike up when you get off the lift. If you want to ski the summit you have to come over the top.

There is quite a bit more skiing off the ghondi. Below the Bistro you should have dropped down drappers and through the skiercross. Drapers is as steep as mountain run an the skier cross turns the flats into a challenge.

High country glades? Empire?
Sorry Mr. Whiteface put the beatdown on ya. Great report.
 

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I saw guys dropping in from the top. I think I also recalled the no hiking signs. I wasn't sure if that was enforced but it sounds like it is.

Empire was roped but we skied Cloudspliter Glades to 10th Mountain. I passed on High Country glades due to MacKenzie's bumps being ridiculously off the hook. HPD showed us some better lines that were very tasty. There was no beat down except perhaps my gear beating me down. I should have cranked the DIN after the same type of prerelease happened the last three times on prior days.
 

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Your not allowed to hike up when you get off the lift. If you want to ski the summit you have to come over the top.

Weird.. I think we've discussed this before, but near when they first opened, you had to hike up from the lift about 20 minutes, and you ended up quite close to the top (although not at the actual top). I don't think it was an option to go straight in. I admit though I agree with Steve that it's not worth hiking for a couple hundred more vertical and sacrificing a run during the limited window they are open, so the "new" (years old, I guess) setup is probably better.
 

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Its been a few years since i've met him but was your guide HPD? looks like him, as far as my crappy memory serves.
 

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curious to hear from the locals. There appears to be a lot of untracked and very cool terrain above where River is skiing here. Any reason it wasn't skied? Off limits? Too much of a pain to hike too?

Regarding the terrain-- the headwalls get significantly steeper above the ski traverse, with the upper slabs of #3 and #4 being the steepest. Since the slides don't extend all the way up from the ridgeline, there are significant amounts of spruce underneath all that snow on the upper flanks. Line options vary greatly from year to year depending on snowpack and windloading.

Access to the summit is relatively easy with the addition of the lookout chair since it was practically built on top of an existing hiking trail to the summit that traverses along the arête above the slides.
 
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Weird.. I think we've discussed this before, but near when they first opened, you had to hike up from the lift about 20 minutes, and you ended up quite close to the top (although not at the actual top). I don't think it was an option to go straight in. I admit though I agree with Steve that it's not worth hiking for a couple hundred more vertical and sacrificing a run during the limited window they are open, so the "new" (years old, I guess) setup is probably better.

Its has been the same entrance since I have been skiing them. Takes about 5 minutes. It does seem that they r a lot quicker to get to now and I don't know why. Above the entrance there is another 700 of vert. It get considerably steeper and not to many people go up there.
 
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Sorry Mr. Whiteface put the beatdown on ya. Great report.

That place always kills me


Yes. It was awesome to get the tour from HPD!

WHen our crew was there we had HPD the first day then TJ and JackThe Ripper our second day. All great guys to ski WF with....if anyone goes to WF and doesn't try and hook up with these guys, well, you're losin' out.

I try to get them to come to Greek but for some reason they're not interested.....can't imagine why. :)
 
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