Costa Concordia Shipwreck

[billski]

We've all heard the transcript. Just listen to the intonation in the voice. Wow.

Click cc for english captions.

 

[thetrailboss]

It was a tragedy and is terrible, but some of the pictures are just unreal. I posted on my FB page last week the image of it on its side...definitely the definition of fail.

And the AARP Pop Up ad listing cruise deals that came up while I was reading the article, double fail!

 

[billski]

Where'd you see this? From what I read, Italians are wearing t-shirts saying "Get th f*** back on board" which is what de Falco said:

"The coastguard official who has become an overnight star in Italy after lambasting a cruise liner captain for abandoning his grounded ship is refusing to take on the mantle of national hero, claiming he just did his job."

more here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/18/costa-concordia-coastguard-rejects-hero?newsfeed=true

In the night, some residents have taken part and insulted the photographers and cameramen, gathered at the foot of the building of two floors of Mr. Schettino, accusing them of " media lynching "against the captain, they are certain, has " saved thousands of lives . "
Local residents are convinced that Mr. Schettino has probably committed a " human error "when he did do" the inchino "(reverence) the ship, by passing close to the coast of the island of Giglio All lights on and sirens blaring. But then, when the huge liner hit a rock and began to capsize, his behavior was impeccable in the management of the emergency.
For them, " he was clever and has managed to secure a lot of people , "said the photographer, and all his interlocutors stressed that" direct assistance from a rescue boat - as the commander says he fact - called Maritime Control + + and is completely legal . "
The residents also recall that " the inchino "is a tradition widely practiced along the Italian coast, as every Monday vessels MSC greet thus approaching close to the Sorrento peninsula.
No one wants to believe the portrait drawn by investigators with some of his colleagues who speak of a type " Daredevil "and" exuberant "that the ship was flying at breakneck speed," like a Ferrari . "

Source

 

[Kerovick]

That'll buff out.

Your on Jeepforum aren't you...

 

[wa-loaf]

Latest I just heard on the radio is the guy took the time to order some dinner for himself from the kitchen after he hit the reef.

 

[SkiDork]

Latest I just heard on the radio is the guy took the time to order some dinner for himself from the kitchen after he hit the reef.

And had this chicka with him during that dinner...

 

[o3jeff]

And had this chicka with him during that dinner...

Both?

 

[legalskier]

Interesting article from gCaptain.com:

Costa Concordia – The 3 Most Fatal Mistakes
Captain Schettino has received a lot of criticisms in the mainstream press and, possibly, even more from industry insiders including gCaptain for abandoning ship before the last passenger was safe. An important question is not being asked however… would his presence on the bridge have saved lives?
The answer is likely no. ***

Story: http://gcaptain.com/costa-concordia-3-fatal-flaws-that-led-to-disaster/?37976

 

[gmcunni]

 

[legalskier]

Wow, this is real big of them.

Carnival offers survivors of doomed cruise Costa Concordia 30% off future cruise; outraged passengers prepare for lawsuit
Survivors of the Costa Concordia wreck are being offered 30% off future cruises with the company — a sales pitch that was not received with much gratitude Sunday.
“It is a ridiculous and insulting offer,” survivor Brian Page, a retired British accountant, told The Telegraph of London, which first reported the discount offer. ***

Story: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wor...epare-lawsuit-article-1.1010066#ixzz1kP71LaJA

This earns a (dis)honorable mention in the Wtf thread....

 

[ScottySkis]

I think the last thing i want is to go on a cruise after being on that ship 30percent is Horrible

 

[Kerovick]

Yeah, 50% is more like it

 

[bvibert]

Like I said in the other thread; they should have offered the survivors free cruises for life in exchange for not suing.

 

[deadheadskier]

I wonder what uninjured passengers will realistically be able to sue for?

I could see receiving a full refund, but really not much beyond that. I don't really equate fear and inconvenience to pain and suffering, but I'm not a lawyer.

 

[bvibert]

I wonder what uninjured passengers will realistically be able to sue for?

I could see receiving a full refund, but really not much beyond that. I don't really equate fear and inconvenience to pain and suffering, but I'm not a lawyer.

I'm sure they'll find something to sue for...

 

[drjeff]

I wonder what uninjured passengers will realistically be able to sue for?

I could see receiving a full refund, but really not much beyond that. I don't really equate fear and inconvenience to pain and suffering, but I'm not a lawyer.

Since it happened in Italian waters, with the Italian courts involved, who knows?? Remember the Amanda Knox fiasco??

 

[billski]

Interesting article from gCaptain.com:

Costa Concordia – The 3 Most Fatal Mistakes
Captain Schettino has received a lot of criticisms in the mainstream press and, possibly, even more from industry insiders including gCaptain for abandoning ship before the last passenger was safe. An important question is not being asked however… would his presence on the bridge have saved lives?
The answer is likely no. ***

Story: http://gcaptain.com/costa-concordia-3-fatal-flaws-that-led-to-disaster/?37976

Having a leader is more important than anarchy. Cases in point: At most disasters, the President/CEO rushes to the scene. Can s/he do much? Physically no. But this is part of leadership. He likely has collective knowledge, contacts and access to resources that others onboard and ashore do not have.

Lack of planning and prudence in evacuation drills in inexcusable. I wonder how much training the captain had in evacuations?

Even in corporations, someone is ultimately responsible for operational activities. As is often said, "ignorance is no excuse."

I'm not at all persuaded he could be of "no help".

 

[billski]

Yeah, 50% is more like it

What's the profit margin on these ships? 30%? The cruise line has lost nothing with this offer.

For starters, they should get their money back. All of it. Immediately.
Next, all the costs encumbered by passengers. Immediately.

Third, "pain and suffering" and punitive damages to the victims. This is a clear case of negligence on several levels, which could have been avoided. This last item will only be decided by the courts.

 

[Black Phantom]

What's the profit margin on these ships? 30%? The cruise line has lost nothing with this offer.

For starters, they should get their money back. All of it. Immediately.
Next, all the costs encumbered by passengers. Immediately.

Third, "pain and suffering" and punitive damages to the victims. This is a clear case of negligence on several levels, which could have been avoided. This last item will only be decided by the courts.

Do you have experience with maritime law?

 

[drjeff]

Do you have experience with maritime law?

As the saying goes "sometimes ship just happens!"