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What Chairlift/Gondola/Tram in the Northeast can you reach the highest uphill speed?

deadheadskier

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Might be, but are we talking line speed or vertical feet per minute?

According to info on skilifs.org

Cannon Tram: Line speed 1500 fpm, vert 2021, ride time 8 min. Would probably be lower ride time if not for the slowdown for docking.

Wildcat: Line speed 1100 fmp, vert 2041, ride time 6 min.

No info for Stowe or Jay.

Hunter's Kaatskill Flyer get you 1475 pretty quick. Doubt it can touch Wildcat though.

If they ever upgarde the Bear Mountain Quad at Killington I think that would be a contender.

I was going to comment on Wildcat's lift in that even though there are other chairs in the Northeast that I'm sure run at the same speed, I don't think any in the East cover the same vertical in such a short amount of time. It's one of the great things about Wildcat. It has minimal run out. Probably the most consistent vertical of any mountain in the East. Definitely the most consistent in the 2000 vert club.
 

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Whiteface's Cloudsplitter is pretty fast and its vertical rise is 2500 feet. Its awesome to be able to cover 2500ft on one lift, lets you lap the mountain. Id say its got to be either number one or two for the greatest single increase in elevation of any lift in the NE
 

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So this got me looking into it. I checked skilift.org. The Whiteface gondola rises 2432 vert feet, and a rated speed of 1212fpm.
 

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Whiteface's Cloudsplitter is pretty fast and its vertical rise is 2500 feet. Its awesome to be able to cover 2500ft on one lift, lets you lap the mountain. Id say its got to be either number one or two for the greatest single increase in elevation of any lift in the NE

Skyeship Gondola at Killington I think has a vertical rise of a little bit over 2500 feet. It is two stages, but from a skiers perspective it's one lift. I believe the vertical rise of this gondola is a hair more than the vertical of the Clousplitter at Whiteface.
 

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I would put Platty up there against any mt. for consistent vert...but they've only got 1100'.

The view from the parking lot is pretty cool, it's like you're looking straight up at the mountain.

The Whiteface gondola rises 2432 vert feet, and a rated speed of 1212fpm.

Doesnt seem so fast when you're crushed for your life against the door like I was last week.

It looks exactly the same as Stowe's gondola, but I can never recall being suffocated like that at Stowe in 1000 gondy rides, so I'm guessing it must be slightly smaller (or the guy on the end last weekend was even fatter than I thought).
 

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The fastest ziplines in the world allow their riders to achieve average speeds of up to 160 km/hour.
 

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The view from the parking lot is pretty cool, it's like you're looking straight up at the mountain.



Doesnt seem so fast when you're crushed for your life against the door like I was last week.

It looks exactly the same as Stowe's gondola, but I can never recall being suffocated like that at Stowe in 1000 gondy rides, so I'm guessing it must be slightly smaller (or the guy on the end last weekend was even fatter than I thought).

The cabins are a little narrower than most
 

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Skyeship Gondola at Killington I think has a vertical rise of a little bit over 2500 feet. It is two stages, but from a skiers perspective it's one lift. I believe the vertical rise of this gondola is a hair more than the vertical of the Clousplitter at Whiteface.

Yup, it is, adding the two stages together gets you to 2522 feet
 

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So this got me looking into it. I checked skilift.org. The Whiteface gondola rises 2432 vert feet, and a rated speed of 1212fpm.

With a lenght of 8487 that would be about 7 minutes if they run it at 1212. About 347 vert per minute.

Wildcat = 2041/6 = 340

Very close.
 

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With a lenght of 8487 that would be about 7 minutes if they run it at 1212. About 347 vert per minute.

Wildcat = 2041/6 = 340

Very close.

Wildcat's Express Quad has a rated speed of 1100fpm, which is faster than most detach quads which normally run at 1000fpm.
 

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Cannon Mountain Aerial Tramway II transcends the famous slopes of Cannon Mountain for 5,359 feet (1,633*m). Its two cabins, each with a capacity for 80 passengers and one attendant, travel at a speed of 1,500 feet (460*m) per minute, with an hourly passenger capacity of 1,540 or 770 in each direction, or more than three times the capacity of the original tramway.
 

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no shit? ride time under 4 minutes for the Cannon Tram. I knew it seemed like a fast ride, but didn't realize it was that fast. I'm guessing because you have the slow load and unload delays (as is the case with all trams) that makes the whole experience seem somewhat slow.
 

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ride time under 4 minutes for the Cannon Tram. I knew it seemed like a fast ride, but didn't realize it was that fast. I'm guessing because you have the slow load and unload delays (as is the case with all trams) that makes the whole experience seem somewhat slow.

They don't run it at full speed.
 

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I got on skilifts.org and plucked the necessary information into a spreadsheet to get vertical feet/minute data. Here are the results:

1) Cloudsplitter- Whiteface 347
2) Summit Quad- Wildcat 339
3) Gondola- Stowe 329
4) Fourruner- Stowe 325
5) North Peak Quad- Loon 324
6) USRA 6 Pack - Stratton 319
7) Summit Quad- Ascutney 312
8. Superstar- Killington 311
9) Flying Yankee- Attitash 308

The Slidebrook Express is the only quad in the east to have a top speed of 1150 feet per minute, while there are a handfull that travel 1100 feet per minute.

The Superstar quad only runs at 900 fpm. If its eventual replacement runs at 1000 fpm, it would have a vert/min of 346. If its replacement moves at 1100 feet per minute, it would cover 380 vert/min, making it the most efficient chair in the east.

Also, the Single at MRG provides the most consistent pitch out of any long lift in the east. It covers 1972 vertical feet in only 5234 feet of length. Even at its speed of 600 feet per minute, it still covers more vertical feet per minute than the summit high speed lifts at Mt. Snow.
 

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I got on skilifts.org and plucked the necessary information into a spreadsheet to get vertical feet/minute data. Here are the results:

1) Cloudsplitter- Whiteface 347
2) Summit Quad- Wildcat 339
3) Gondola- Stowe 329
4) Fourruner- Stowe 325
5) North Peak Quad- Loon 324
6) USRA 6 Pack - Stratton 319
7) Summit Quad- Ascutney 312
8. Superstar- Killington 311
9) Flying Yankee- Attitash 308

The Slidebrook Express is the only quad in the east to have a top speed of 1150 feet per minute, while there are a handfull that travel 1100 feet per minute.

The Superstar quad only runs at 900 fpm. If its eventual replacement runs at 1000 fpm, it would have a vert/min of 346. If its replacement moves at 1100 feet per minute, it would cover 380 vert/min, making it the most efficient chair in the east.

Also, the Single at MRG provides the most consistent pitch out of any long lift in the east. It covers 1972 vertical feet in only 5234 feet of length. Even at its speed of 600 feet per minute, it still covers more vertical feet per minute than the summit high speed lifts at Mt. Snow.

I hope to try mad river single chair this winter
 

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I got on skilifts.org and plucked the necessary information into a spreadsheet to get vertical feet/minute data. Here are the results:

1) Cloudsplitter- Whiteface 347
2) Summit Quad- Wildcat 339
3) Gondola- Stowe 329
4) Fourruner- Stowe 325
5) North Peak Quad- Loon 324
6) USRA 6 Pack - Stratton 319
7) Summit Quad- Ascutney 312
8. Superstar- Killington 311
9) Flying Yankee- Attitash 308

The Slidebrook Express is the only quad in the east to have a top speed of 1150 feet per minute, while there are a handfull that travel 1100 feet per minute.

The Superstar quad only runs at 900 fpm. If its eventual replacement runs at 1000 fpm, it would have a vert/min of 346. If its replacement moves at 1100 feet per minute, it would cover 380 vert/min, making it the most efficient chair in the east.

Also, the Single at MRG provides the most consistent pitch out of any long lift in the east. It covers 1972 vertical feet in only 5234 feet of length. Even at its speed of 600 feet per minute, it still covers more vertical feet per minute than the summit high speed lifts at Mt. Snow.
Define "long lift." The Bear Mountain Quad is 1185 vert over 2833 length, which would beat the single.
 

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Define "long lift." The Bear Mountain Quad is 1185 vert over 2833 length, which would beat the single.

I was thinking 4000 feet in lenght because that's roughly how long it takes to merit a high speed quad. Granted there are always exceptions.
 

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I got on skilifts.org and plucked the necessary information into a spreadsheet to get vertical feet/minute data. Here are the results:

1) Cloudsplitter- Whiteface 347
2) Summit Quad- Wildcat 339
3) Gondola- Stowe 329
4) Fourruner- Stowe 325
5) North Peak Quad- Loon 324
6) USRA 6 Pack - Stratton 319
7) Summit Quad- Ascutney 312
8. Superstar- Killington 311
9) Flying Yankee- Attitash 308

Nice work!!! But what about the trams? Guess we would need an accurate timing with the docking time. The obviously wouldn't be the best bet for vert per day, just one ride.

Surprised the Stowe Gondola beat the Fourrunner.
 
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