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machski

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Superstar was running full capacity in the afternoon. The new lift is nice and fast but I don't like the foot rest design it sucks having the bar between your legs. Also the loading gates are finicky, sometimes they won't open if your not waiting close enough and they close really quick. The natural snow was skiing great today
That bar design is a true safety bar, especially for little kids. With a bar between everyone's legs, they can't slip out and under the bar anymore. That design is staying and is now the standard for Dopp.
 

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With regards to Dopp gates... lean forward against them. Then when they open you're sliding down at the perfect timing.
More specifically, there is a photocell in each gate to determine if someone is waiting it not. If nobody is waiting at a gate and blocking it, the gates don't open up at all (assuming functionality matches other modern Dopps).
 

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More specifically, there is a photocell in each gate to determine if someone is waiting it not. If nobody is waiting at a gate and blocking it, the gates don't open up at all (assuming functionality matches other modern Dopps).
Iโ€™ll never understand this feature. Seems unnecessary and inefficient. It should just open as each chair passes regardless.
 

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Iโ€™m not crazy about the gates, but I think the footrests are the best innovation in footrests in the last half century. If one likes to use footrests, whatโ€™s there works; if one is a dangler, the footrests are out of the way; and the snowboarders to whom I spoke even liked them. Based on a rough poll I took over several dozen trips, Iโ€™d say the likes to dislikes ratio was about 70 to 30 positive.
 

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Iโ€™ll never understand this feature. Seems unnecessary and inefficient. It should just open as each chair passes regardless.
I'm just guessing, but maybe it's an effort to prevent people from sliding through without stopping first? If the gates open every cycle, it would be relatively easy to just time your approach, but carrying any momentum into the loading carpet can be problematic at the load line.
 

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The amount of towers on SS is a sight to see. Every 20-25' or so.

Also hate the bar on the Dopps.

The line entry gates sensitivity at Killington need to be turned up. Everyone going through needs to do a dance to get through. At Jay they open when you are 2 feet from the actual RFID bay which was perfect.
 

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Iโ€™m not crazy about the gates, but I think the footrests are the best innovation in footrests in the last half century. If one likes to use footrests, whatโ€™s there works; if one is a dangler, the footrests are out of the way; and the snowboarders to whom I spoke even liked them. Based on a rough poll I took over several dozen trips, Iโ€™d say the likes to dislikes ratio was about 70 to 30 positive.

Every snowboarder I have spoken to hates them.
 

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I'm really not a fan of any lift with a chair that has a bar between your legs...even if I'm riding a double chair solo somewhere, I'll sit to one side or the other and never in the middle.
 

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Every snowboarder I have spoken to hates them.
When you say, "every snowboarder I know hates them", how big is your sample? Also significant is how the question was asked. I asked the question: "Compared to the standard footrest or no footrest, how do you like the one here?" A few replied, "I don't like any of them, but I don't like this one the least of the 3."
 

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This snowboarder loves them. Now I can dangle without contorting my knees in directions they donโ€™t approve of.
 

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Telluride has the same type of footrest, check out the snowboarder at the end
 

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Quote from KZone:

That footrest is brutally bad for snowboarders on a full chair. The only way I could find a little bit of comfort on it was to cross my legs over it. The only way to do that without bashing the skis of the people next to me is keeping my board extended straight out while the bar comes down between my legs then crossing them over it. Not good; groms were having a tough time with it. I hope I'm missing something and there is a better way!
 

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That bar design is a true safety bar, especially for little kids. With a bar between everyone's legs, they can't slip out and under the bar anymore. That design is staying and is now the standard for Dopp
Makes sense for little kids but it's completely uncomfortable for full grown adults when the chair is full
 

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When you say, "every snowboarder I know hates them", how big is your sample? Also significant is how the question was asked. I asked the question: "Compared to the standard footrest or no footrest, how do you like the one here?" A few replied, "I don't like any of them, but I don't like this one the least of the 3."
At least 10-15, they are even dangerous as they have released a few boards on people with clip on snowboard bindings. You say 70-30 in favor, from my on mountain experience it's the opposite with 70% hating them.
 

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I havenโ€™t had problems with that footrest but I donโ€™t have step ons but rarely ride full lifts. I biggest hate is unloading full lifts especially 6 or 8 person lifts. That new 8 pack at Loon is a disaster.
 

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This snowboarder loves them. Now I can dangle without contorting my knees in directions they donโ€™t approve of.
Interesting, I hate them when I'm on a snowboard. I'm definitely more likely to leave the bar up with that type. I still remember Bogus Basin was the first place I saw them. Other 2 snowboarder friends also hated them, so we just left the bar up the rest of the day. I do get that they're much better at keeping kids in place though.
 

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I have it on good accord that the state of VT is about to make this style of safety bar (at least with the part between your legs) mandatory on lift installs moving forward, so better get used to them.
 
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