2020-21 Sunday River

[machski]

So a friend went Rogue and hiked up Jordan to the "new" summit. Saw a bit of video, looks completely different up there, especially the entrance to Kansas. The drop down and hard left turn are gone, it now just flows straight and consistently off the top of Jordan without much of a turn.

Also, the mountain has begun the rebuild of Barker Mountain Road (about flipping time!!. Apparently it is a huge rebuild, including rebuilding all the primary culverts for the road. It is closed Mon-Fri's through September to traffic. My guess is homeowners along and off the road have access them, quite likely via trolley lane depending on where the work is centered on particular weeks.

 

[machski]

Here's some IG photos from the company doing the earth work on Carumba for the Jordan 8 install. You can see the complete trail destruction of what was Carumba, which has basically been converted into a west side version of the Heat. At this point, I pray they drop snowmaking down the trail as the natural hoot that it was is gone forever.

Fall Line Construction on Instagram: "With blasting nearly complete on the Jordan 8 lift line we are starting to clean up the ledge and dig the last couple of towers."

93 likes, 2 comments - falllineconstruction on September 4, 2022: "With blasting nearly complete on the Jordan 8 lift line we are starting to clean up the ledge and dig the last couple of towers.".

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[drjeff]

Here's some IG photos from the company doing the earth work on Carumba for the Jordan 8 install. You can see the complete trail destruction of what was Carumba, which has basically been converted into a west side version of the Heat. At this point, I pray they drop snowmaking down the trail as the natural hoot that it was is gone forever.

Fall Line Construction on Instagram: "With blasting nearly complete on the Jordan 8 lift line we are starting to clean up the ledge and dig the last couple of towers."

93 likes, 2 comments - falllineconstruction on September 4, 2022: "With blasting nearly complete on the Jordan 8 lift line we are starting to clean up the ledge and dig the last couple of towers.".

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I am guessing that they're running on time, however in the pics in that link it mentions that they're getting ready to dig the last 2 towers. Now if they're going to be done in the traditional way, once the tower site is excavated and the re-bar placed, they will pour a large base pad (for refernence the base pads that Dopp has for the new Sundance 6 Pack at Mount Snow are a solid 12 to 15 feet across and multiple feet tall from what I saw this past weekend), then that base pad concrete has to cure for typically about 3 weeks, then they pour the multiple feet tall cylindrical shaped with more re-bar as well as the large diameter anchor bolts imbedded into it that the tower will be secured to) on top of that, and then that pour has to cure for another 3 or so weeks typically before the towers can be flown in and placed on the final tower pad assembly. Just in curing time alone, that's 6 weeks or so, which gets the construction timeline into basically early November before the towers can be flown and then the haul rope pulled and spliced and then the testing of the lift and inspection can begin.

I get that Jordan typically doesn't come online until early December or so, but it seems like there is little room for any variables to pop up to have that lift ready to haul guests up the hill by then

 

[Newpylong]

The pedestal is typically poured at the same time the footing itself otherwise the pad isn't really a good anchor. Depending on the formula of the concrete and the retarding agents used, it can be strong enough to drop a tower in as little as 7 days. 21 days is the absolute max.

It seems that they have made significant progress on both terminals ahead of the towers which is usually the opposite of a typical build. There likely were delays in either building the forms or the concrete for the footings which made them go that direction. You don't want holes sitting there waiting for concrete for weeks...

As for Carumba, no choice on the width unfortunately. All new liftlines are required to be wide enough where no nearby tree can fall on the haul rope + more margin.

 

[Andrew B.]

The pedestal is typically poured at the same time the footing itself otherwise the pad isn't really a good anchor. Depending on the formula of the concrete and the retarding agents used, it can be strong enough to drop a tower in as little as 7 days. 21 days is the absolute max.

It seems that they have made significant progress on both terminals ahead of the towers which is usually the opposite of a typical build. There likely were delays in either building the forms or the concrete for the footings which made them go that direction. You don't want holes sitting there waiting for concrete for weeks...

As for Carumba, no choice on the width unfortunately. All new liftlines are required to be wide enough where no nearby tree can fall on the haul rope + more margin.

Accelerators are good stuff
We routinely hit 75% of design strength (10,000 psi) in less than 30 hours which is critical when building larger urban building cores on a schedule.

 

[machski]

Yeah, I think they are on schedule. They new they had a lot of earthwork to do on Carumba, including blasting out a ton of ledge (anyone recall Spruce's summit foundation releasing several summer's ago?). Pretty sure the ideo was get the terminals done, pour and let tower foundations cure, then fly the towers/crossarms and after that, it's pulling the haul rope, splicing and you're off and running. Betting they are targeting December 10th for a grand opening, the following Saturday as a fallback.

For reference, here is the base circumference of the conical towers for reference:

 

[Newpylong]

North Peak Booster station coming together

 

[BodeMiller1]

One of the coolest things at SR is the old Snowflake Factory building. The colors stood out and it had snowflakes on it.

 

[NYDB]

anyone heading up for the wife carrying competition next weekend?

 

[Zand]

Wow...that kind of sucks about the Caramba liftline but it's a necessary evil I guess. At least SR has a lot of good liftline trails but that one always had the best snow. Hopefully Wizard's Gulch is okay.

 

[skef]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1575846436314370051

Presumably, mice were harmed.

 

[Newpylong]

Yep, the yearly try to lead the masses on that we're making snow early in the morning when it's cold but don't have the air hooked up...

 

[drjeff]

Yep, the yearly try to lead the masses on that we're making snow early in the morning when it's cold but don't have the air hooked up...

Well atleast the lawn there got watered this morning!

And that soft lighting around sunrise and pics from a bit of a distance sure helps the marketing department sell the illusion to the masses that they're actually making snow.

Coincidentally, I noticed a picture on a FB snowamkers group that appeared to be from this morning that some of the folks at Wildcat were watering the lawn near the queue area for the quad with a Polecat ealier today

 

[IceEidolon]

I saw that polecat running too. I still haven't seen anything stuck yet but it's trending that way.

How hard could Wildcat fight for an early opening if management was fully on board and they had a full, trained up crew to work with? Not that I think that's likely.

 

[kbroderick]

Yep, the yearly try to lead the masses on that we're making snow early in the morning when it's cold but don't have the air hooked up...

Can they get that level of spread out of the towers without air turned on?

(I thought that was why they'd used fan guns in the recent past)

 

[Newpylong]

Yes, air does little to change the throw on an internal mixing/Low-E gun, especially when you're running at very high pressure like they do at SR. The water pressure does most of the work.

 

[Vortex]

I will be up for the Fall fest weekend. be nice to see some folks we have not seen since May.

 

[Dickc]

New Facebook video of the Jordan 8

 

[machski]

The new gun line coming into Spruce triple off AmEx/Grand Rapids.

 

[skef]

Three years ago this weekend. The beforetimes.