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A beer or drink at Lunch, a warming shot on the Lift, a sip in the Woods. Do you?? Don't you?? How far have you seen a person drink and Ski or ride??
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I generally get about a pound out of a plant.
How long do you let them veg before putting them into a flower cycle?
I imagine the science is considerably better than our hack methods back 20-25 years ago. We also were super impatient and started flowering very quickly after the cuttings rooted.
I remember how paranoid we were. The only place in VT to get lights and supplies back then was Green Thumb Gardening in Underhill. My roommates and I used to borrow a car from a friend who didn't smoke / grow when we went to GTG because we were paranoid the feds were tracking the license plates of people who shopped there. Lol.
Last few years I've been growing outside so mother nature decides how long the veg period is. When growing inside I would let it get about 18" away from the light (in a 7 foot tall tent) before switching to 12/12. They would then stretch another 6" or so. Length of veg depended on genetics but generally 1.5-2 month.
IN NY it is not yet legal to grow your own but will be once they finish figuring out the regulations for retail and such. That said, I know a lot of people are now growing and I intend to start some sees indoors late this winter and then move the plants outside. I doubt law enforcement is looking to arrest folks with a few plants.
Below is from NYS Office of Cannabis Management.
"Home Cultivation of Cannabis New Yorkers 21 years of age and older can grow up to 6 cannabis plants in their home for personal use (3 mature plants and 3 immature plants) and a maximum of twelve plants per household (6 mature plants and 6 immature plants). Please be aware the home cultivation of cannabis is not allowed immediately. Pursuant to the MRTA, the home cultivation of cannabis is only permitted after the OCM issues regulations governing home cultivation of cannabis, which will occur within 18 months of the first adult-use retail sale. The MRTA also permits the home cultivation of medical cannabis for certified patients registered in the Medical Cannabis Program. Home cultivation for certified patients has an accelerated timeline, but is not authorized until the OCM issues regulations, which will occur on or before September 30, 2021"
Note: Not surprisingly they are well past their September 30. 2021 date and have not updated their web site.
Looked up CT. Legal to grow there - indoors only.
Below is from NYS Office of Cannabis Management.
"Home Cultivation of Cannabis New Yorkers 21 years of age and older can grow up to 6 cannabis plants in their home for personal use (3 mature plants and 3 immature plants) and a maximum of twelve plants per household (6 mature plants and 6 immature plants). Please be aware the home cultivation of cannabis is not allowed immediately. Pursuant to the MRTA, the home cultivation of cannabis is only permitted after the OCM issues regulations governing home cultivation of cannabis, which will occur within 18 months of the first adult-use retail sale. The MRTA also permits the home cultivation of medical cannabis for certified patients registered in the Medical Cannabis Program. Home cultivation for certified patients has an accelerated timeline, but is not authorized until the OCM issues regulations, which will occur on or before September 30, 2021"
Note: Not surprisingly they are well past their September 30. 2021 date and have not updated their web site.
Looked up CT. Legal to grow there - indoors only.
Hawk
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This whole Fenn
- Nobody today goes to a "dealer" to buy weed anymore. If you are into hardcord drugs you might but not for weed. Granite1, by you stating this I get the feeling you don't do any drugs or do not really hang around with people that smoke weed. Your statement dates you back 10 to 20 years.
- All this talk a about opioids/fentanyl - cartels - China, etc. is voiced extensively by the right leaning political groups trying to unseat Hassum for Bolduc in NH. They are tryng to say she is responcible for the uptick in deaths. Not my State do I don't realy have a voting opioning but I am wondering if Mr. Granite has been doing to much one sided reading.
Two things about this.
- Nobody today goes to a "dealer" to buy weed anymore. If you are into hardcord drugs you might but not for weed. Granite1, by you stating this I get the feeling you don't do any drugs or do not really hang around with people that smoke weed. Your statement dates you back 10 to 20 years.
- All this talk a about opioids/fentanyl - cartels - China, etc. is voiced extensively by the right leaning political groups trying to unseat Hassum for Bolduc in NH. They are tryng to say she is responcible for the uptick in deaths. Not my State do I don't realy have a voting opioning but I am wondering if Mr. Granite has been doing to much one sided reading.
I've been growing outdoors in NY for a few years now, while technically not legal it realistically is. It's technically illegal to sell weed too but you can walk into plenty of stores in NYC and buy weed right now.
I've been spending a lot of time in Brooklyn for work the past few months. People seem to be selling (and smoking) it everywhere.
KustyTheKlown
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there are lots of weird little shops popping up. like bodegas and smoke shops that are just blatantly selling. i'd be fine getting flower from them but i'd be a bit wary of their concentrates and edibles. lots of guys in manhattan just setting up tables on the street too. like you're walking in soho and its the typical cheap jewelry and art tables but now there's just a cannabis table too. the best quality in these kinds of places are in the private clubs like streetlawyer and astor club, which are sort of like Amsterdam cannabis cafe type places - social smoking clubs. that's where quality matters over quantity, until ny gets real dispensaries open.
nj dispensaries are high quality but ludicrous prices. the local police shut down the most blatent bodega operation in jersey city. a legit dispensary is opening in jersey city in December. currently the closest are about 20 minutes from me. i think JC intentionally wasn't part of the first wave because it is SO accessible for new yorkers
nj dispensaries are high quality but ludicrous prices. the local police shut down the most blatent bodega operation in jersey city. a legit dispensary is opening in jersey city in December. currently the closest are about 20 minutes from me. i think JC intentionally wasn't part of the first wave because it is SO accessible for new yorkers
When Canada went legal in 2018, the prices and supply was garbage. This was for a number of reasons, one being they delayed legalization and the producers just sold the original stock that been sitting around for months.
The last few years the quality of the legal pot has gone up and the prices have gone down. (in general) You can now get comparable/better pot for cheaper than before legalization.
The last few years the quality of the legal pot has gone up and the prices have gone down. (in general) You can now get comparable/better pot for cheaper than before legalization.
raisingarizona
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Our government agencies are the biggest organized “crime” operations out there. Most things are ok as long as they get their vig.
raisingarizona
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Same out here. It’s insanely affordable now. My x illegal grower friends aren’t that stoked on legalization.
ss20
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Very cheap edibles in Nevada and Colorado. That's all I really consume. Girlfriend smokes "carts" which I don't have a huge understanding of but she buys illegally still.
Joints were cool/fun back in my day but I am hooked on the edibles now. Sooo much stronger without the mess or smoke.
Not Sure
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This thread turn would make Scotty proud lol
I don't smoke but did a little bit in my youth , I watched a friend clean his pipe out and it was nasty, looking also at bong water gets pretty ugly too.
My dad was diagnosed with Cancer at an early age ( which he beat ) , He was a long term Camel Smoker . Maybe that was my prohibition but pulling burning shit into your lungs just can't be good in the long term , my dad did eventually pass from COPD . If I would partake edibles would be the only thing I would consider.
In my day when I did party a friend grew some in a bag of peat moss.....best smoothest shit we ever had .
I don't smoke but did a little bit in my youth , I watched a friend clean his pipe out and it was nasty, looking also at bong water gets pretty ugly too.
My dad was diagnosed with Cancer at an early age ( which he beat ) , He was a long term Camel Smoker . Maybe that was my prohibition but pulling burning shit into your lungs just can't be good in the long term , my dad did eventually pass from COPD . If I would partake edibles would be the only thing I would consider.
In my day when I did party a friend grew some in a bag of peat moss.....best smoothest shit we ever had .
KustyTheKlown
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cannabis does not equal tobacco and shouldn't be put on the same plane. the study you cite admits that they have no real proof of 'marijuana lung' and that much of the study subjects were cig smokers.
"Scientifically proving this phenomenon has been difficult, in part due to the lack of studies in animal models and the limited ability in collecting data from individual users, due to marijuana's illegal status. Additionally, many of these patients concomitantly use tobacco which itself can be a cause for prominent para-septal emphysema in young patients. While several case reports and case studies have described a connection of bullous emphysema and marijuana use, most studies have been unable to confirm a definite link.
Further studies with larger numbers of patients and animal models are needed to confirm the link between bullous lung disease and marijuana use. However, our case is another example of this possible connection..."
sounds like some scientists really wanted to find an adverse health effect and came up short and couldnt produce anything more than anecdotal.
meanwhile...
A few studies have found that inhaled (smoked or vaporized) marijuana can be helpful treatment of neuropathic pain (pain caused by damaged nerves).
Smoked marijuana has also helped improve food intake in HIV patients in studies.
There are no studies in people of the effects of marijuana oil or hemp oil.
Studies have long shown that people who took marijuana extracts in clinical trials tended to need less pain medicine.
More recently, scientists reported that THC and other cannabinoids such as CBD slow growth and/or cause death in certain types of cancer cells growing in lab dishes. Some animal studies also suggest certain cannabinoids may slow growth and reduce spread of some forms of cancer."
www.cancer.org
"Scientifically proving this phenomenon has been difficult, in part due to the lack of studies in animal models and the limited ability in collecting data from individual users, due to marijuana's illegal status. Additionally, many of these patients concomitantly use tobacco which itself can be a cause for prominent para-septal emphysema in young patients. While several case reports and case studies have described a connection of bullous emphysema and marijuana use, most studies have been unable to confirm a definite link.
Further studies with larger numbers of patients and animal models are needed to confirm the link between bullous lung disease and marijuana use. However, our case is another example of this possible connection..."
sounds like some scientists really wanted to find an adverse health effect and came up short and couldnt produce anything more than anecdotal.
meanwhile...
"How can marijuana affect symptoms of cancer?
A number of small studies of smoked marijuana found that it can be helpful in treating nausea and vomiting from cancer chemotherapy.A few studies have found that inhaled (smoked or vaporized) marijuana can be helpful treatment of neuropathic pain (pain caused by damaged nerves).
Smoked marijuana has also helped improve food intake in HIV patients in studies.
There are no studies in people of the effects of marijuana oil or hemp oil.
Studies have long shown that people who took marijuana extracts in clinical trials tended to need less pain medicine.
More recently, scientists reported that THC and other cannabinoids such as CBD slow growth and/or cause death in certain types of cancer cells growing in lab dishes. Some animal studies also suggest certain cannabinoids may slow growth and reduce spread of some forms of cancer."
Marijuana and Cancer | Cannabinoid Drugs
Learn how marijuana and drugs derived from the marijuana plant such as dronabinol and nabilone can affect cancer-related symptoms.
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Not Sure
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You’ll be a good test subject.cannabis does not equal tobacco and shouldn't be put on the same plane. the study you cite admits that they have no real proof of 'marijuana lung' and that much of the study subjects were cig smokers.
"Scientifically proving this phenomenon has been difficult, in part due to the lack of studies in animal models and the limited ability in collecting data from individual users, due to marijuana's illegal status. Additionally, many of these patients concomitantly use tobacco which itself can be a cause for prominent para-septal emphysema in young patients. While several case reports and case studies have described a connection of bullous emphysema and marijuana use, most studies have been unable to confirm a definite link.
Further studies with larger numbers of patients and animal models are needed to confirm the link between bullous lung disease and marijuana use. However, our case is another example of this possible connection..."
sounds like some scientists really wanted to find an adverse health effect and came up short and couldnt produce anything more than anecdotal.
meanwhile...
"How can marijuana affect symptoms of cancer?
A number of small studies of smoked marijuana found that it can be helpful in treating nausea and vomiting from cancer chemotherapy.
A few studies have found that inhaled (smoked or vaporized) marijuana can be helpful treatment of neuropathic pain (pain caused by damaged nerves).
Smoked marijuana has also helped improve food intake in HIV patients in studies.
There are no studies in people of the effects of marijuana oil or hemp oil.
Studies have long shown that people who took marijuana extracts in clinical trials tended to need less pain medicine.
More recently, scientists reported that THC and other cannabinoids such as CBD slow growth and/or cause death in certain types of cancer cells growing in lab dishes. Some animal studies also suggest certain cannabinoids may slow growth and reduce spread of some forms of cancer."
Marijuana and Cancer | Cannabinoid Drugs
Learn how marijuana and drugs derived from the marijuana plant such as dronabinol and nabilone can affect cancer-related symptoms.
I have no doubt about benefits for Cancer patients. I was diagnosed with Lymphoma in 1994 . Chemo was brutal shit . I’m 100% for the use , but question is smoking the best option vs edibles? Your body is already under attack by poisonous chemicals now your adding lung stress with smoking?
Yes cigarettes are worse, I watched a pilot friend have to give up flying due to COPD . He became very depressed as flying was his life.
I am concerned about the long term lung issues being downplayed due to cheerleading for something people enjoy. To each his own.
KustyTheKlown
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fair enough.
way to beat that shit!
way to beat that shit!
Riverskier
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I typically have about 3 chairlift beers during the second half of a ski day, and then one at the bar before heading home. I used to drink primarily at the bar, but beer prices have gone up exponentially at Sunday River over the years, even after accounting for inflation. One $12 beer a day is enough.
