billski
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I-89 in Montpelier
I-89 in Montpelier
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Another reason not to ski today
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Looks like a mess, any details on what happened?
Johnskiismore
New member
Yeah, it was pretty ugly up here with the icing.
Then this morning it was pouring.... back to bed!
Then this morning it was pouring.... back to bed!
billski
Active member
2 milk trucks vs. car. One truck in the front jack-knifed and skidded. The car collided with it and the truck behind the car slammed into the car. End result was passenger in car was killed and the driver of the second truck was killed. Massive fire. Not good.
http://timesargus.com/article/20100125/NEWS/100129967
http://www.wcax.com/global/story.asp?s=11874078#
A lot of people are upset because VT has adopted a "winter conditions" road policy (i.e. "we don't plow or sand as often anymore") versus the old "clear roads" policy. Lots of accidents this year and lots of damage. The VSP have been ticketing everyone that goes off the road. Not to get political, but it is absurd.
http://timesargus.com/article/20100125/NEWS/100129967
http://www.wcax.com/global/story.asp?s=11874078#
A lot of people are upset because VT has adopted a "winter conditions" road policy (i.e. "we don't plow or sand as often anymore") versus the old "clear roads" policy. Lots of accidents this year and lots of damage. The VSP have been ticketing everyone that goes off the road. Not to get political, but it is absurd.
We zipped out of Brattleboro last night without an issue. Once we hit the Mass line, things got interesting. Salt trucks were looping the roads on both sides of the highway. I'm not sure how icey it was out, but they were salting like crazy. We saw two spinouts in Greenfield...northbound. Some guy hauling a u-haul enclosed trailer behind his pickup was driving out of the median; a Honda Civic was in the breakdown lane facing the wrong way.
Very sad.
I wish I had something positive to report, but I just got out of a meeting in White River Junction and it's raining at a pretty good clip.
I wish I had something positive to report, but I just got out of a meeting in White River Junction and it's raining at a pretty good clip.
ctenidae
Active member
I was going to make a joke about crying and spilled milk, but then I saw there were fatalities.
Instead, I'll just say that really sucks.
Instead, I'll just say that really sucks.
riverc0il
New member
S reported a truck off the road on her commute home from Concord which took twice as long as usual. Some people complain about the snow but sometimes snow is safer for driving because it actually forces people to slow down versus doing the speed limit or faster during a down pour and hydro plaining and eventually hitting a frozen spot in the road... dangerous stuff this rain just barely above freezing.
Geoff
Well-known member
They had that road policy back in the 1970's until it killed too many people. When I was at UVM, the entire left lane of I-89 was ice from White River to Canada. In New Hampshire, they treat I-93 from the Mass line to Manchester with a liquid salt solution when the forecast is calling for black ice. I wish they'd do I-89 but I guess that's not a high enough traffic road to justify the expense.
The State Police ticketing people for sliding off the road is beyond absurd. I was incredulous the first time a friend told me they'd been ticketed.
Times are tough and they need to pay for things I guess. :roll: At some point someone is going to challenge their ticket and sue the state.
ctenidae
Active member
This thread needs a little pork-me-up.
The results of my weekend.
Sausage is homemade Polish "white" sausage, smoked for about 3 hours.
Bacon started as 3 lbs of pork belly, 3 weeks in the beer fridge with salt, brown sugar, and paprika. My god, it's good.
The results of my weekend.
Sausage is homemade Polish "white" sausage, smoked for about 3 hours.
Bacon started as 3 lbs of pork belly, 3 weeks in the beer fridge with salt, brown sugar, and paprika. My god, it's good.
Johnskiismore
New member
This thread needs a little pork-me-up.
The results of my weekend.
Sausage is homemade Polish "white" sausage, smoked for about 3 hours.
Bacon started as 3 lbs of pork belly, 3 weeks in the beer fridge with salt, brown sugar, and paprika. My god, it's good.
Droooooollllll
Marc
New member
This thread needs a little pork-me-up.
The results of my weekend.
Sausage is homemade Polish "white" sausage, smoked for about 3 hours.
Bacon started as 3 lbs of pork belly, 3 weeks in the beer fridge with salt, brown sugar, and paprika. My god, it's good.
I wish you were the Rock so I could smell what you were cookin'.
Geoff
Well-known member
Or shoot the cop.
As absurd as it is, it's not a concept that's unique to Vermont and in some places the 'rules' are much worse. I got a warning when I lived in Athens, OH for simply driving in the snow. They have driving bans during winter weather. 3 inch snowstorm was it. Unless you were going to work or somewhere because of an emergency, you could get a ticket.
That's interesting on the roads policy. As a flatlander, I assumed that's the way it always was in VT. I've heard a few PSA's on the radio this year and just thought "Well, this ain't CT..."
Is there a method to the maddness so to speak? As in they did that to try to save money due to the budget?
Is there a method to the maddness so to speak? As in they did that to try to save money due to the budget?
Geoff
Well-known member
They're trying to keep the road salt from contaminating the groundwater. This goes in cycles. Right now, they're using the least sat possible. After some spectacular deaths, they'll go back to bombing the roads with stunning amounts of salt.
jrmagic
New member
That is sad that there were fatalities. As for the tickets for going off the road... what exactly is the offense? Is it some type of reckless driving thing? Once you get below the interstate road level you can find some interesting stuff. I banged into some snow banks on the sides of Route 11 a few years back and did some 360s but I don t think it was my fault. I was driving pretty slowly and then came down a hill and the road was canted towards the side. Not too much I could do about it. Thank God it was the middle of the night and noone was coming and also that there were snow banks instead of a valley to the side of the road.
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