Attitash Summit Triple Problems 2018-2019

[thetrailboss]

Oooof.

"It is my unfortunate duty to inform you all that despite the best efforts of our lift mechanic team here at Attitash – as well as that of outside specialists – we will be unable to reopen the Summit Triple for the remainder of the 2018/2019 season."

It's not exactly a shock, given how things have gone with it this winter, but still.

Wow. Just wow. That’s sad. Not surprising considering that the pic on liftblog.com showed a huge crane in place by the lift. Get a new one.


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[thetrailboss]

If I was a 'Tash regular I would be livid at the prospect of no new lift. Outside of replacing pipe and building the mid mountain pumphouse (because the old pipe and pumps were toast) at Wildcat and the fan guns back in 2007 at Attitash Peaks has not done a thing for either hill outside of maintenance. Meanwhile the two cash cows to the south are soaking it in. You can read the frustration in the wording.

Agreed.

Just read that blog post and I have no doubt that Attitash will see a big loss of passholders based on that post and news. Sounds like Peaks is just throwing good money after bad on this lift and are really digging themselves into a hole with their passholders. It's too bad because as a kid growing up in the 1980's and 1990's, Attitash was THE PLACE in the MWV and did pretty well in terms of improvements by ASC and previous ownership. I think it is fair to say that pretty much everyone in that area (except Black Mountain) has probably passed Attitash in terms of upgrades and improvements. I think this also takes the prize for biggest lift F-up this season although Waterville Valley will likely be a close second!

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[skiur]

You won't do that because you aren't stupid enough to go to jail. Or at least hopefully.

Running over a ski does not warrant assault internet tough guy.

So come and fuck with my kid then. If you are purposely running over my kids ski you are close enough to him that you could hurt him. This is after chasing us down the trail and cursing at us. I would have to think that you do not have children.

 

[thetrailboss]

Bump.

For those wondering what is going on with Attitash's Summit Triple:

"We will resume work on the repairs immediately after Labor Day when the summer crowds disperse," Lowell said Monday. "It would be unsafe to have work going on now while we have attractions and families wandering near the work areas. The rebuilt pieces will be delivered the last week of August so we can begin to get organized with heavy equipment to place the pieces back into the motor room and raise the bull wheel.

"Everything is going as planned, and I am confident the summit triple will be ready for the start of the upcoming season. We have also done a near-complete rebuild of the Flying Yankee this spring. We are installing a new drive in the Abenaki lift and have done extensive work on the Flying Bear. Our lift maintenance staff have been working extremely hard this spring and summer and will continue to do whatever prudent to make our lifts reliable and safe for this season and seasons to come."

https://www.conwaydailysun.com/news...cle_b9f5c9c0-acb5-11e9-a347-3b3870d0c67e.html

 

[MEtoVTSkier]

They threw way too much money away on that lift...

 

[EPB]

They threw way too much money away on that lift...

It should have been replaced years ago. Hopefully, Vail won't get bogged down in a sunk cost analysis and just replace it next year. I read a while back on liftblog that Vail usually announces new projects in the Feb-Mar range. Hopefully, they announce then that they will replace the triple.

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[deadheadskier]

It should have been replaced years ago. Hopefully, Vail won't get bogged down in a sunk cost analysis and just replace it next year. I read a while back on liftblog that Vail usually announces new projects in the Feb-Mar range. Hopefully, they announce then that they will replace the triple.

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Years ago when Greg used to do the AZ challenge, someone from Attitash (pre-peaks days) said a HSQ and a couple more trails to handle the additional trail traffic was on the road map. Hopefully those drawings are still somewhere in a closet and someone hands them to Vail management.

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[thetrailboss]

As said, Attitash hasn't seen any major updates since ASC in the late 1990's. That is a long time.

I recall Attitash ALWAYS being busy when I drove by. I would think that any improvements would help to re-establish their brand. The MWV is a great place.

 

[EPB]

Years ago when Greg used to do the AZ challenge, someone from Attitash (pre-peaks days) said a HSQ and a couple more trails to handle the additional trail traffic was on the road map. Hopefully those drawings are still somewhere in a closet and someone hands them to Vail management.

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To echo you and TB, this would be a huge boon for Attitash. As someone who grew up skiing there and tries to get back a couple times a year, I think Vail ownership is likely to be a huge win for MWV area. Spending the $$$ to get Attitash into the 21st century is a drop in the bucket for Vail and would go a long way towards improving the skier experience. A high speed lift and a few extra trails should help handle the added Vail traffic adequately - it's not like the place is already jammed up like a Sunapee or Hunter.

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[Newpylong]

On top of the triple (which is mindboggling as it is), they ran all last season down a pump at Bear and down two compressors (for both mountains). One compressor has been down for years, and the other within the past year. Instead of repairing it with the insurance money received they decided to buy more guns with the payout. These are all corporate decisions.

Assuming no new trails with a HSQ, local management wants to at least replace the snowmaking on Wilfred's which has been not operational in years. Word is a certain Peak's Operations Manager either couldn't get it working or froze the line and threw a hissy fit. ince then it's been disconnected. The water lines does a 180 at the top of the CTEC instead of continuing over to the valve station, making reconnection pretty tough.

Not many folks over there shedding tears to see Peaks go.

 

[jg17]

Hopefully the new management makes a replacement happen, and soon. It would be great to see them get in for next year's construction season.

That said, they've put a lot of money into this left, and an '88 CTEC has some value. I wouldn't be surprised to see the lift live on elsewhere if replaced in the next few years. Wildcat comes to mind where there are some older Riblets and they're already familiar with this model. Otherwise, there's plenty of other mountains in the newly expanded Vail portfolio (or many other mountains in general) that would gladly take a CTEC with a newly upgraded drive terminal.

 

[deadheadskier]

Replace Bobcat at Cat with the triple and put in a conveyor. Would be a nicer ride for the racers and intermediates that use that pod.

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[EPB]

Replace Bobcat at Cat with the triple and put in a conveyor. Would be a nicer ride for the racers and intermediates that use that pod.

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That would be a big help over there.

I've mentioned this before, but I'd like to see the triple replaced by a six pack with a mid station just above where the Yankee ends (to serve all the terrain covered by the Yankee). That way, the Yankee could replace the double-doubles, which also really need to be replaced.

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[sull1102]

Seems too easy, but I would argue that Attitash was by far the most mismanaged property of all the Peak Resorts. At least they really cared about Crotched in the beginning. Attitash seemed like an "oh yeah, we still own that place?" type of situation for Peak. It's sad because it could have been second to Mount Snow on the totem pole thanks to the big summer business and MWV instead of what it became.

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[EPB]

Seems too easy, but I would argue that Attitash was by far the most mismanaged property of all the Peak Resorts. At least they really cared about Crotched in the beginning. Attitash seemed like an "oh yeah, we still own that place?" type of situation for Peak. It's sad because it could have been second to Mount Snow on the totem pole thanks to the big summer business and MWV instead of what it became.

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It has felt like an afterthought going back to the later ASC days. Really ever since they stopped short of replacing the triple after installing the flying yankee.

On a somewhat related note, it would be great to see Vail build a summit lodge at Wildcat. I understand Peak agreed to let the summit area grow in, but there's probably a way to pull it off if Vail wanted to pull it off.

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[thebigo]

Everyone talks about the attitash triple, first priorities need to be the water at wildcat and roof on bear lodge. Either tear the bear lodge down or fix the damn roof, nobody should be working in that mold infested sieve and give the people at wildcat some water that is actually drinkable.

Next priority for vail in nh needs to be a true beginner trail off the summit at the crotch.

 

[EPB]

Everyone talks about the attitash triple, first priorities need to be the water at wildcat and roof on bear lodge. Either tear the bear lodge down or fix the damn roof, nobody should be working in that mold infested sieve and give the people at wildcat some water that is actually drinkable.

Next priority for vail in nh needs to be a true beginner trail off the summit at the crotch.

I think the Bear Peak lodge will be on the short list if the crowds improve. You think there's actually a fix to the water situation at the kitty? I figure a water bottle filtration system would do the trick (and something similar for the bar).

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[deadheadskier]

Bear roof is being fixed this summer.

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[machski]

I'm still waiting to see Vail spend any significant money in the East. They have not to date with Stowe/Okemo/Sunapee. $15million the next 2 years across 17 areas doesn't have enough for lifts. Hopefully Attitash is included in their spring lift announcements.

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[EPB]

I'm still waiting to see Vail spend any significant money in the East. They have not to date with Stowe/Okemo/Sunapee. $15million the next 2 years across 17 areas doesn't have enough for lifts. Hopefully Attitash is included in their spring lift announcements.

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What's the status of the expansion at Sunapee? That seemed like the only major potential need between the three areas (I am totally ignorant to Okemo in full disclosure). I also wonder if acquiring Crotched will quell the need to expand Sunapee in Vail's eyes.

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