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Part of me wishes they'd do competitions without the standard airs like most of the amateur ones in the 80's were like. The first couple bumps and bamboo comps at Okemo didn't have airs and you just had to take air wherever you could. As impressive as the arrials are that the competitors do today, I'm always equally as impressed by some one who goes big just right in the the middle of the field and lands without missing a beat.
This may make me a outcast but there are times I think Mosely did more harm to the sport. Pushing the envelop in the air, he had the best stuff but that made the rest of the pack focus on that also. That put less emphasis in the turns, even PA Rousseau was saying that the mogul courses are easy.
I wouldn't mind seeing a daffy, twister, spread from time to time or a big back scratcher to cosack.
I don't know that I'd call the increased focus on airs harming the sport in itself. I think the real harm Moseley did was open the eyes of people to what skiers were capable of in the air. The migration of skiers to the park started between the 1998 and 2002 Olympics, and part of that was Moseley. Plus, he was really the first big name to jump ship from bumps to big air/slopestyle.This may make me a outcast but there are times I think Mosely did more harm to the sport. Pushing the envelop in the air, he had the best stuff but that made the rest of the pack focus on that also. That put less emphasis in the turns, even PA Rousseau was saying that the mogul courses are easy.
If there was more variety in the airs, I'd say he was great for the sport. It just seems to me that everyone does an iron cross back at the top and a corked flip (not sure what it's called) at the bottom.
I wouldn't mind seeing a daffy, twister, spread from time to time or a big back scratcher to cosack.
I think it was Cabral that hit a Quint Twister. Nasty.The dinner roll eventually pushed the sport into allowing more variety and then inverts. Previous to this the standard air was the daffy, twister and kossacks. If you see some of the old footage of Janne Lahtela freestyle champ during Mosely's era, he had some of the highest verticals. Right now that's consider second rate, even the kids in Sunapees freestyle team are nailing the inverts.
I don't know that I'd call the increased focus on airs harming the sport in itself.
One of the interesting things is everyone crying foul over his 4th place finish at Salt Lake. Unfortunately I haven't been able to find video of Mayer's run (or Janne's or Gay's,) but I know Moseley was slower, and his turns weren't all that clean. Fantastic skier for sure, but sort of caught in the transition between deflection turns and the current A&E heavy carved turns.
There's footage of those runs... some say Mayer should have gotten the gold. To be fair, the points given for the air do go thru a standard formula, the dinner roll was never broken down in terms of deg of difficulty, deductions and so on.
sorry, don't follow this sport as closely as you guys, are you saying he lost points for doing the dinner role?
sorry, don't follow this sport as closely as you guys, are you saying he lost points for doing the dinner role?
Presently, the FIS judges handbook has guidelines on the point system for each aerial.
what's the book say for a NO-SSACK
what's the book say for a NO-SSACK
This is a great video that explains it all:
kind of interesting. He talks about how stagnant things were and he was just trying to push things and do something different.
Now I watch things and it seems everything has gotten monotonous again with everyone doing the same tricks.
what's the book say for a NO-SSACK
what really needs to happen is one of you sundown rippers need to man up and throw the 'Temptor Quad'......2 O'clock Twister > No Sacks > Dumper Air > Pole Daffy