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Bands that "jumped the shark"...

Greg

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The phrase "jumped the shark" comes from that Happy Days episode when Fonzy tries to jump over a shark on waterskis, signaling the point at which the show starts to suck. Let's apply this to bands. I'll start:

One of my favorite bands: Van Halen.

Some would argue anything after (or even including 1984) is when VH turned south. I actually like 1984, and 5150 and OU812 with Sammy Hager. For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge was a turning point though, and I think the band jumped the shark with that album...

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VH no doubt jumped the shark...
Genesis jumped after Peter Gabriel left...
The Who jumped when they reformed after Moon died..

I could go on and on...
 

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Pink Floyd jumped with "Animals", especially "Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave and Grooving with a Pict." They had some good stuff afterwards, but that album really moved them out of relevancy.
 

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ctenidae said:
Pink Floyd jumped with "Animals", especially "Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave and Grooving with a Pict." They had some good stuff afterwards, but that album really moved them out of relevancy.

Animals is a "desert Island disk" for me... An incredible album... Great lyrics, music and ideas... I'd say it's my favorite Floyd album...

This thread is giving me a headache...
 

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dmc said:
This thread is giving me a headache...
Already? Or are all the music threads starting to blur together... ;) :lol:
 

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ctenidae said:
Pink Floyd jumped with "Animals", especially "Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave and Grooving with a Pict." They had some good stuff afterwards, but that album really moved them out of relevancy.

I think you have the wrong album. Several Species is on UMMAGUMMA. An album marking the low point and end of PF version 1. Barret, Waters, Mason, Wright, and a little Gilmour with no say musically.
what came after Ummagumma is the Floyd as it is known today. Waters, Wright, Mason, and Gilmour.
Ummagumma is crapola. Animals is a work of genius musically and lyrically.
 
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DSOTM, WYWH, Animals, and the Wall are the Floyd everyone hears most. Final Cut was mainly a Waters solo album and MLOR and Division Bell are written just by David (although still pretty good musically). A couple of Syd's albums, like PATGOD and Saucerful are great. Then they released Ummagumma. Atom Heart Mother and Meddle were a couple of transition albums (pretty good ones) into the "modern" floyd.

Metallica jumped after Master of Puppets. Black Album was okay, but then they went WAY downhill. AC/DC jumped after For Those About To Rock. Razor's Edge was OK, but the rest weren't that good.
 

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This thread is too complex...
I'll just comment on a few things:

-Animals is a great album.
-Someone mentioned in another thread that GnR jumped the shark with Spagetti Incident - I agree, but it's not like they did anything after that.

It's unfair to say that a band jumped the shark after they lost a key member - the sound can never stay the same.

Also, there are many bands that I might consider that jumped the shark, but they just really changed their music style - sometimes the general public digs it.
ie - Radiohead. Loved Pablo Honey and the Bends... after that they got so obscure with most of their stuff - I could say that they jumped the shark, but most of the public prefers their latter stuff anyway.

ugh, very complex this topic is
 

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Zand said:
Metallica jumped after Master of Puppets. Black Album was okay, but then they went WAY downhill. AC/DC jumped after For Those About To Rock. Razor's Edge was OK, but the rest weren't that good.

I thought And Justice for All was amazing. So I would say Black album, pretty much everything on that album is horrible IMO, espicially sad but true and enter sandman:uzi:. I actually liked load a lot more than black. I really like bleeding me and the outlaw torn, but still nothing like the older albums. So anyway Black Album= "the shark jumped"


...and man don't let me started on stuff on television. I think the simpsons jumped the shark many many years ago and just wont give up, its truly painful to watch now. Way worse than any band I have seen...
 

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awf170 said:
...and man don't let me started on stuff on television. I think the simpsons jumped the shark many many years ago and just wont give up, its truly painful to watch now. Way worse than any band I have seen...

Hold that thought. I suspect that will be the next iteration of this thread....
 

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Congrats to WIKEDBUMPER and ZAND for knowing their Floyd.

There's another album in there...pre-Meddle (Meddle is awesome IMO). It was terrible...I know Meddle has a song Pillow of Winds...this "pre-album" has a similar title.

I've got "A Nice Pair" *Marc/Dozer, no comments*...meh....and "Ummagumma"...blech. One of my sons has a (live I think) version of Animals...the first and last songs linked by a Gilmore solo. Much better entertainmnet in a noisy car enroute to the slopes. I mean "Dogs" would be tough on a noisy car.

Deep Purple. Egad, I'm not a fan of the "Hush" days. In fact, I just recently learned that was their song! I guess they were later popular in Japan? "My Woman in Tokyo"? meh. I wasn't a "Top 40" kind of guy. But Fireball and Machine Head....even my 20's sons love that stuff.
 

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Sky521 said:
Congrats to WIKEDBUMPER and ZAND for knowing their Floyd.

There's another album in there...pre-Meddle (Meddle is awesome IMO). It was terrible...I know Meddle has a song Pillow of Winds...this "pre-album" has a similar title.

thanks Sky, I'm still a big floyd fan. theres a movie soundtrack they did called "zabesky point" or something like that. I know I spelt it wrong. after meddle comes "obscured by clouds" then the run of great albums begins...DSOTM, WYWH, Animals, and the Wall.
 
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ckofer said:
Sorry, really referring to Starship et al.

psheeeew.... had me nervous there.. :)

I want to go to Jormas guitar camp next summer..
 

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Several Species wasn't on Animals? I thought it was. It's been a long time since I lost all my old Floyd casettes. I did like Final Cut, though- too bad no one ever plays any of those songs.
 

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ckofer said:
The Dead after Brent died

Hey! We have our own thread for that! I disagree with you, however. The formation of The Other Ones, and now "The Dead" after Jerry died was the jump. I like their solo acts much better now.
 
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