Belleayre and NYS Budget Cuts

[thinnmann]

From Daily Freeman:

Tuesday we'll have reaction from Hunter Mountain and Windham to a proposal for a regional ski pass that incorporates Belleayre Mountain and ends the intercounty war over ski areas. Correspondent Jay Braman Jr. has been following this story.​

Maybe the "intercounty war" will land us with something many people have wanted for a long time?... Unless H & W's reaction is a big negatory, good buddy....

... go DMC ...

 

[dmc]

From Daily Freeman:

Tuesday we'll have reaction from Hunter Mountain and Windham to a proposal for a regional ski pass that incorporates Belleayre Mountain and ends the intercounty war over ski areas. Correspondent Jay Braman Jr. has been following this story.​

Maybe the "intercounty war" will land us with something many people have wanted for a long time?... Unless H & W's reaction is a big negatory, good buddy....

... go DMC ...

That would be sweet...

 

[hardline]

From Daily Freeman:

Tuesday we'll have reaction from Hunter Mountain and Windham to a proposal for a regional ski pass that incorporates Belleayre Mountain and ends the intercounty war over ski areas. Correspondent Jay Braman Jr. has been following this story.​

Maybe the "intercounty war" will land us with something many people have wanted for a long time?... Unless H & W's reaction is a big negatory, good buddy....

... go DMC ...

a catskilzz pass would drive alot biz to the region. i think a lot of people might actually get that and stay further south than going the rest of the way to vt.

 

[dmc]

a catskilzz pass would drive alot biz to the region. i think a lot of people might actually get that and stay further south than going the rest of the way to vt.

Yeah and think of all the "in between" areas businesses...

Stay in Hunter - stop into the sandwich joint on the way to Belleayre - and visa versa...
It's a good thing...

 

[thinnmann]

I predict 10,000 views on this thread on Oct 8 at 8:34pm. Give or take .......

This thread could be the best advertisement media blitz ever planned for Belleayre, Hunter, Plattekill, and Windham. Its not hurting AZ hit rate either.

Sorting this forum by number of replies and views, this thread is urrently ranked 8th in number of replies, 20th in number of views.

I best update my blog sometime soon...........

 

[dmc]

Sorting this forum by number of replies and views, this thread is urrently ranked 8th in number of replies, 20th in number of views.

I best update my blog sometime soon...........

It's generally been a good discussion... Informative...

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

Sorting this forum by number of replies and views, this thread is urrently ranked 8th in number of replies, 20th in number of views.

I best update my blog sometime soon...........

It's generally been a good discussion... Informative...

It is very interesting reading even for someone like myself who doesn't ski at Belleyre.

 

[hardline]

Yeah and think of all the "in between" areas businesses...

Stay in Hunter - stop into the sandwich joint on the way to Belleayre - and visa versa...
It's a good thing...

people would do one area on friday one on sat and the last on sunday. there would be some great movement on the roads between the areas. now since windam and hunter are private i wonder if they actually care about the surounding area. i could see upper managment being a bit myopic.

 

[millerm277]

people would do one area on friday one on sat and the last on sunday. there would be some great movement on the roads between the areas. now since windam and hunter are private i wonder if they actually care about the surounding area. i could see upper managment being a bit myopic.

Sure, they care. If the surrounding area looks horrible, and there's nothing open in the town, it reflects badly on the ski area, and leaves visitors with less to do. (Bored visitors=not returning) So "caring", at least somewhat, would make sense.

 

[hardline]

Sure, they care. If the surrounding area looks horrible, and there's nothing open in the town, it reflects badly on the ski area, and leaves visitors with less to do. (Bored visitors=not returning) So "caring", at least somewhat, would make sense.

i meant the catskills region not the area immediate to the ski hill. it would nake sense but sometimes egos get involved and clouds judgment.

 

[dmc]

people would do one area on friday one on sat and the last on sunday. there would be some great movement on the roads between the areas. now since windam and hunter are private i wonder if they actually care about the surounding area. i could see upper managment being a bit myopic.

I think Hunter cares about the surrounding area... To a degree... They(Slutsky family) are involved in the community(hunter Foundation, etc...)

I see volunteers from Hunter cleaning the highway...

 

[hardline]

I think Hunter cares about the surrounding area... To a degree... They(Slutsky family) are involved in the community(hunter Foundation, etc...)

I see volunteers from Hunter cleaning the highway...

i hope they do. i guess we will just have to see how this lands. a pass like this might convince we to get a small house in the area. MC on work days, cats on the days i dont have to be in the office/site and vt on powder days.

 

[catskills]

Ulster County Legislative Chairman Donaldson Proposing a Catskill Regional Ski Pass

In 2006 Hunter and Windham were part of the the Ski The Catskills Card

Wayback Machine listed Hunter and Windham on Ski the Catskills Card in 2006.

 

[skidbump]

And the answer is....

Regional ski pass idea gets cool reception
By Jay Braman Jr., Correspondent
09/30/2008
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ULSTER County Legislature Chairman David Donaldson's proposal that Ulster, Greene and Delaware counties team up to institute a "Catskill Regional Ski Pass" has received a chilly reception from one of the region's biggest ski centers and only a curious look from another.

Donaldson, D-Kingston, who earlier this year called for a public boycott of activities at Hunter and Windham ski centers in Greene County in response to their criticism of subsidies for the state-owned Belleayre Mountain Ski Center in neighboring Ulster County, now thinks that leaders of the three counties should meet with tourism leaders and ski center operators to develop and promote a ski pass that would allow skiers to ski at any of the centers in the Catskill region.

"This type of ski pass and promotion are long overdue," Donaldson said, noting that he had already written letters to Greene and Delaware county officials asking them to join forces with Ulster in promoting skiing this winter.

"We should be competing with Vermont, New Hampshire, Colorado and Utah, not with each other," he said.

But this year there has been bad blood between Belleayre and the privately owned Windham and Hunter, both of which pressed for a study of Belleayre's operating budget because they feel it has unfair advantages by being run by the state with taxpayer money.

Tim Woods, president of Windham Mountain, said Donaldson's idea has been discussed at length within his organization since it was proposed, and Windham is not interested.

Woods described Belleayre's ticket rates as "predatory pricing" and therefore sees no benefit to such a deal.

"First, we're subsidizing Belleayre (with taxpayer dollars)," Woods said. "Then we're loaning them our customers?"

In the short term, Woods looks forward to more skier visits this season anyway, saying that he expects high gas prices to keep skiers from the metropolitan area closer to home than Vermont and New Hampshire.

Hunter Mountain President Russ Coloton said Monday that he doesn't know anything about the regional ski pass plan.

"No one has contacted us yet," he said. "Our only understanding of it is from what we read in the paper."

Coloton added that he would be interested in hearing more about the plan.

Donaldson said the leaders of the three Catskill Region counties should work together to promote the whole region and raise awareness of the fact that there are more ski centers in New York state than in any other state in the country, and that there are more ski centers in the Catskill region than in any other region in the state.

"This type of approach makes more sense than Greene County attacking Ulster County's No. 1 tourist attraction, or Ulster County calling for a boycott of Greene County's ski resorts, which in the long run is detrimental to the region as a whole and to both counties,"** Donaldson said.

Donaldson said the owners and management of Belleayre, Hunter and Windham ski areas should meet to discuss ways to bring more skiers to the area instead of fighting over the existing numbers.

"As leaders, it is time for us to lead the way to more positive and cooperative efforts," he said.





©Daily Freeman 2008

 

[faceplant]

"As leaders, it is time for us to lead the way to more positive and cooperative efforts," he said.

Nobody bothered to get in touch with Hunter? Man, that's some fine leadership work there

 

[andrec10]

"As leaders, it is time for us to lead the way to more positive and cooperative efforts," he said.

Nobody bothered to get in touch with Hunter? Man, that's some fine leadership work there

No, its Russ playing Dumb...wait he IS DUMB, and a cheap son of a beatch as well.

 

[faceplant]

Russ or no Russ, I keep thinkin wouldnt it be cool to swap some silver handcuffs for the golden parashutes on Wall St--use the coin up here How bout some real leadership!

 

[andrec10]

Russ or no Russ, I keep thinkin wouldnt it be cool to swap some silver handcuffs for the golden parashutes on Wall St--use the coin up here How bout some real leadership!

Imagine even a VERY small percentage of the money blown on Wall street invested into Hunter....Damn new lifts and trails, now theres a concept!:razz:

 

[dmc]

Russ or no Russ, I keep thinkin wouldnt it be cool to swap some silver handcuffs for the golden parashutes on Wall St--use the coin up here How bout some real leadership!

So your saying it is the leadership of Belleayre thats failing me and my fellow tax payers?

Cause last i checked... Hunter, Plattekill and Windham aren't in jeopardy of closing and they have to do it all on their own...

The very thing that people complain about with Russ's Colten being cheap is telling... Maybe Belleayre should pinch some pennies...
We're all waiting very patiently for expansion at Hunter... I hear things... But not enough to talk about... It's going to happen - but it will happen when they can pay for it...

 

[dmc]

Imagine even a VERY small percentage of the money blown on Wall street invested into Hunter....Damn new lifts and trails, now theres a concept!:razz:

All that $$ Hunter could use to lobby getting use of some of the slack country areas...