Belleayre and NYS Budget Cuts

[dmc]

i hope they do. i guess we will just have to see how this lands. a pass like this might convince we to get a small house in the area. MC on work days, cats on the days i dont have to be in the office/site and vt on powder days.

May I suggest a mid week powder day at Hunter? They tend to be pretty nice...

Even a weekend powder day is nice... Lots of time in the mornings to track the place out before all the cars make it up the mountain road...

 

[ed-drum]

Anyone who says Hunter gets too crowded doesn't know how to ski the place. You have to get there early before the gomers fall out of bed, and hit the breakfast places. It takes a while before the bus people get on the slopes after renting their skis and eating breakfast. Then, there are the GPS people who try to take the Plattecove road shortcut and get mad because their high tech directions don't indicate that the road is CLOSED in the winter and arrive late. Then, the people eat buy their watches and complain that the lodge is too crowded at noon lunchtime. Good skiers do everything EARLIER. I've skied on VERY crowded weekends and know trails that are empty. Belleayre seems empty even with a crowded parking lot because most of the skiers are at the bunny hill.

 

[andrec10]

Anyone who says Hunter gets too crowded doesn't know how to ski the place. You have to get there early before the gomers fall out of bed, and hit the breakfast places. It takes a while before the bus people get on the slopes after renting their skis and eating breakfast. Then, there are the GPS people who try to take the Plattecove road shortcut and get mad because their high tech directions don't indicate that the road is CLOSED in the winter and arrive late. Then, the people eat buy their watches and complain that the lodge is too crowded at noon lunchtime. Good skiers do everything EARLIER. I've skied on VERY crowded weekends and know trails that are empty. Belleayre seems empty even with a crowded parking lot because most of the skiers are at the bunny hill.

Shhhhh!

 

[curlyfuzzie]

If it closes where will you ski?

If it partially opens who will stay / go?

Just bitching

Since the closing of Scotch Valley/Deer Run/Scotch Valley, Windham and Belleayre are the closest ski areas to my home. I am a strictly recreational skier who takes great advantage of ski cards and the fact that my non-skiing sister can get me sick discounts on lots of areas through her union. If Belleayre closes or curtails services, *(which would REALLY upset me, as I usually ski there 10-15 days a year) I guess I would go more frequently to Windham, but after reading about their “cool reception” to the idea of a ski card, maybe not.
Now that Gore will apparently be opening their Burnt Ridge Expansion this year, it looks like I’ll be heading north this year, and investing again in my Gore/Whiteface card... (still fascinating to me that Gore is enjoying a great expansion, while Belleayre is on the chopping block).

 

[RichT]

People! Don't listen to these guys, Hunter is always crowded and never sees a powder day!! So you should go north where the snow really is!:roll:


I don't want Bellayere to close either!

 

[ed-drum]

Going early doesn't apply to just Hunter. One can't stay out late and party AND get a good day in. Skiing with a hangover is not just silly, it can be dangerous. Besides, the cops around Hunter arrest people for drunk driving early in the morning because they still smell like a still from the night before. I've heard about that happening.

 

[k2 four]

Since the closing of Scotch Valley/Deer Run/Scotch Valley, Windham and Belleayre are the closest ski areas to my home. I am a strictly recreational skier who takes great advantage of ski cards and the fact that my non-skiing sister can get me sick discounts on lots of areas through her union. If Belleayre closes or curtails services, *(which would REALLY upset me, as I usually ski there 10-15 days a year) I guess I would go more frequently to Windham, but after reading about their “cool reception” to the idea of a ski card, maybe not.
Now that Gore will apparently be opening their Burnt Ridge Expansion this year, it looks like I’ll be heading north this year, and investing again in my Gore/Whiteface card... (still fascinating to me that Gore is enjoying a great expansion, while Belleayre is on the chopping block).

Funny, I grew up skiing Scotch Valley.... Loved it. I remember when it changed to Deer Run. That could be oh lets say 25 years ago + or -.

Gore would be my choice, however its about 1:45 longer of a drive for me. More gas money, more time on the road.

 

[hardline]

May I suggest a mid week powder day at Hunter? They tend to be pretty nice...

Even a weekend powder day is nice... Lots of time in the mornings to track the place out before all the cars make it up the mountain road...

i would consider it but last year i followed the snow and it ended me at stowe 9 time out 10. if the storm tracks south i would more than likely end up at platy but it might be fun to meet up track the place. plus we have to at least one skillz spitty tour this winter.

 

[thinnmann]

Rumors, Speculation & Lies - A Critical Review

You guys are getting a bit OT with the Hunter stuff.

I started this thread on Sep. 8. Here it is the last day of the month and we have gone up and down on the stock market a lot more than on any ski hills so far this month. So it is time for an accounting -

Let's review:

WHAT WE KNOW:

1. Belleayre is facing budget cuts and must figure out how to have a ski season operation.
2. Belleayre's web site is devoid of any info except "Belleayre Mountain is currently working on 2008-2009 pricing and programming, please check this website frequently for updates and changes."
3. We should write letters & emails, and call NY legislators to tell them to support Belleayre.

WHAT WE DON'T KNOW:

1. How deep the budget cuts will affect Belleayre's operations.
2. The effect of the lobbyists from Green County.
3. Hunter & Wyndham's real numbers.
4. The definition of "crowded" when applying it to Catskill ski areas.
5. How DMC is able to spend so much time on the computer, at this forum.

WHAT IS RUMOR:

1. There will be no daycare or instructional programs at Belleayre.
2. There will be no races at Belleayre, but BMRA will train on any available terrain with limited gate training.
3. There will be only one upper mountain lift operating - Superchief.
4. The west side will be closed.
5. Hunter is not crowded.
6. DMC gets a monthly check from Hunter based on the number of times he mentions them in his posts.

Let's hope October brings us some REAL INFORMATION, both from the official Belleayre web site and from some reporters willing to dig for some truth and publish it!

 

[dmc]

[*]DMC gets a monthly check from Hunter based on the number of times he mentions them in his posts.

DMC works on the internet... and many hours a day.. So this place is my water cooler... too bad for you...

DMC is a NY State Taxpayer and a resident of the village of Hunter in the town of Hunter and want to see his town prosper and my tax $ accounted for.. The only affiliation i have with the ski area is I buy a pass and play music at happy hour...

 

[dmc]

WHAT WE DON'T KNOW:

1. How deep the budget cuts will affect Belleayre's operations.
2. The effect of the lobbyists from Green County.
3. Hunter & Wyndham's real numbers.
4. Weather of not tax payer $ was mismanaged
5. If the ski areas will bond together for a common pass
6. Why someone from new Jersey is questioning a NYer questioning state $ use
7. What the big deal about Belleayre is?
8. Will all the new guys you recruited ever post anyplace else on AZ? And did I scare them away?

just joking... It's all good... Belleayre will open... Snow will fly...

 

[hardline]

WHAT WE DON'T KNOW:

1. How deep the budget cuts will affect Belleayre's operations.
2. The effect of the lobbyists from Green County.
3. Hunter & Wyndham's real numbers.
4. Weather of not tax payer $ was mismanaged
5. If the ski areas will bond together for a common pass
6. Why someone from new Jersey is questioning a NYer questioning state $ use
7. What the big deal about Belleayre is?
8. Will all the new guys you recruited ever post anyplace else on AZ? And did I scare them away?

just joking... It's all good... Belleayre will open... Snow will fly...

new avatar?

 

[dmc]

new avatar?

IT's ski season... almost...

 

[hardline]

IT's ski season... almost...

its freakin killin me. moved some stuff up the lake house for winter. decided i want to be closer to the hill this year.

 

[ComeBackMudPuddles]

WHAT WE DON'T KNOW:

1. How deep the budget cuts will affect Belleayre's operations.
2. The effect of the lobbyists from Green County.
3. Hunter & Wyndham's real numbers.
4. Weather of not tax payer $ was mismanaged
5. If the ski areas will bond together for a common pass
6. Why someone from new Jersey is questioning a NYer questioning state $ use
7. What the big deal about Belleayre is?
8. Will all the new guys you recruited ever post anyplace else on AZ? And did I scare them away?

just joking... It's all good... Belleayre will open... Snow will fly...

What does the weather have to do with alleged mismanagement of taxpayer money?

 

[catskills]

Is it true that Hunter and Windham now want to shut down all taxpayer money going to NASA research on Mars ever since the Mars Lander found snow on Mars ? :blink:

 

[faceplant]

Bovina Aman Resort

All this noise about Belleayre resort but not a sound about that huge resort on its way in Bovina. Buddy in Andes tells me its gonna be as upscale as you can get. Right down to playing polo and swimming in a pool fulla cash. There even lifting the liquor ban so it can go through. Just imagin if they build the resort first, then take Bobcat outta mothballs for all them rich folks. Weird-not a peep outta Hunter an Windy bout it tho. You boys are so worried about little Belleayre your missing the big bear creepin up from behind. Wait til Orville sees all them sheiks limos drivin past his mountain on the way to Bovina. Lotta raptors out there.

http://www.amanresorts.com/

 

[skidbump]

Now DMC will want mars to close :smile:

 

[dmc]

All this noise about Belleayre resort but not a sound about that huge resort on its way in Bovina. Buddy in Andes tells me its gonna be as upscale as you can get. Right down to playing polo and swimming in a pool fulla cash. There even lifting the liquor ban so it can go through. Just imagin if they build the resort first, then take Bobcat outta mothballs for all them rich folks. Weird-not a peep outta Hunter an Windy bout it tho. You boys are so worried about little Belleayre your missing the big bear creepin up from behind. Wait til Orville sees all them sheiks limos drivin past his mountain on the way to Bovina. Lotta raptors out there.

http://www.amanresorts.com/

Nice try.... But there's tons wrong with your post...
Starting with.. Is the state paying for this resort... Which it is not...

What is your problem.... Why are you being like this???? Why do you hate Hunter and Windham that much? What's the root cause... Did daddy leave at the top of the quad when you were a little baby? Did a BMW chase you down in the Windham parking lot?
Did you hit a rock at Plattekill..??

Or is it more deep seated then that.......?

I understand if you don't want to talk about it... Hating ski areas is a real problem... You may have to face it in therapy someday... Good luck with that... I hear theres lots of good docs in Jersey....

 

[dmc]

Now DMC will want mars to close :smile:

good one... But sersiously...

I DO NOT WANT BELLEAYRE TO CLOSE!!!!!!