Big Tupper

[Harvey]

Thanks Warp Daddy.

You're right that Lift 3 really doesn't add much terrain. The decision to bring lift 3 on (vs Lift 1) was made based on cost. Lift 3 was newer and in much better shape than Lift 1.

Looks like I generated quite a ruckus with Part 1 of our BT piece. The real estate is pretty controversial.

Working on the final part - part 3 this weekend.

 

[Warp Daddy]

Thanks Warp Daddy.

You're right that Lift 3 really doesn't add much terrain. The decision to bring lift 3 on (vs Lift 1) was made based on cost. Lift 3 was newer and in much better shape than Lift 1.

Looks like I generated quite a ruckus with Part 1 of our BT piece. The real estate is pretty controversial.

Working on the final part - part 3 this weekend.

Its a GOOD ruckus to raise tho Harv -- the developer better GET REAL soon with estimates of just how much SERIOUS interest there will be for an 1100 vert hill and mega housing density at $$$$$$$$$$$$$ in this economy . I'd like to see it "scaled" to fit the region . Make no mistake i am a huge fan of BT and want it back but NOT as an anthill covered with " rich joeys "

 

[mattchuck2]

Its a GOOD ruckus to raise tho Harv -- the developer better GET REAL soon with estimates of just how much SERIOUS interest there will be for an 1100 vert hill and mega housing density at $$$$$$$$$$$$$ in this economy . I'd like to see it "scaled" to fit the region . Make no mistake i am a huge fan of BT and want it back but NOT as an anthill covered with " rich joeys "

Yeah, but it might be a sustainable business model. Have you ever skied Northstar at Tahoe? That place is the worst mountain (skiing wise) in the area, and somehow they've made a mint with a ridiculous base village and enormous housing projects.

 

[Harvey]

We posted Part 3: Big Tupper Summit Tour this am.

Would love to get just one skiing related comment on the blog. :roll:

 

[Warp Daddy]

Again Nice work Harv - i think that you've captured the essence of what BT is about . Its funny that you compare it somewhat to Gore . We always said that its kinda like the Jr Varsity version but definitely some similarities . Frankly we never had a BAD day there it was always a good day of skiing for a great PRICE

The photos are much appreciated and i agree THIS yr TUPPER is a MUST for me -- hey who knows

 

[thetrailboss]

Nice blog and pics. It really does a lot to bring life and perspective to the place. I hear about it every now and then on WCAX. Hope they can make it. I hate seeing places go to NELSAP (or in this case NYLSAP).

 

[Harvey]

Thanks to Warp Daddy and thetrailboss. More Big Tupper on Harvey Road this week in two blog entries:

Local kids make good (skis!):

Interview with Avant Skis

And big news for the hill:

Lift 3 Approved by NYS to Open

 

[AdironRider]

Nice work as always Harv.

I honestly think Tupper could kill it with a radical real estate business model. Its in a unique position for this really.

Cheap, something the everyday man can afford. Something a ski bum could swing a mortgage on.

Build out a bunch of super cheap a-frames and cabins. Real rustic, old family lakehouse or cabin in the woods style, and hawk em for pennies compared to anything else out there real estate wise. With a decent enough amount of these little cabins, the margins would be fantastic. Sub 50k entry levels, maybe more if you built enough of em right off the bat. Those take off, then you think about expanding.

Jackson Hole started with a hostel and a tram. Look at it now. (Not that I want that to happen to Tupper, and its not Jackson, but for examples sake work with me here.)

Tell me a bunch of people who always dreamed about having that ski place in the mountains wouldnt jump at the chance. I know I would.

I think if ski areas set up their real estate models more like a real community catering to all they could have something. Not just the million plus second home markets they seem to think is still the golden goose.

They already own the land right? The idea would go right down the crapper if they bought it a couple years ago and need to cover some serious debt obligations.

 

[Newpylong]

so sweet!

 

[Warp Daddy]

Harv you continue to whet our appetite for BT . Great news about #2 and #3 .


Kudos to the guys @ Avant -- wish u guys much success .