gmcunni
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this thread kind of reinforces that stereotype
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Blue Boy Update
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this thread kind of reinforces that stereotype
BenedictGomez
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Your stereotype about Hunter is the correct one, but you miss the mark on Windham.
The Windham stereotype is that it's for old people, people who only ski groomed terrain, and people who care more about expensive trappings than skiing.
andrec10
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You hit the mark! Aspen of the east my ass!
Funky_Catskills
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Awesome.. I personally don't let one guy bug me.. I don't see anybody wasted on the hill - unless it's NYPD race week.
To each her own...
KustyTheKlown
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plattekill, belleayre, windham, hunter. in that order. especially since responsibilities require me to be a 90% weekend skier.
The whole Blue Boy thing is stale and needs to stop.
I ski all the Catskills areas.
Plattekill is great when there is good snow, not so much this season.
Belleayre is a classic ridgeline ski area with little long sustained vertical. Better natural snow than Hunter or Windham and they do a good job leaving 4 of the steep pitches at the top bumped up and supplied with snowmaking.
Windham is OK but nothing stands out about it to me other than the upscale skier emphasis. Hey having a sushi chef on staff doling out sushi in the cafeteria sells.
Hunter has the best snowmaking and completely blows all the other Catskill ski areas away in terms of sustained vertical and steeps. Think west side.
Take your pick if you want to ski there. Why not try each place out and come to your own conclusions? Saying you heard this and that about any ski area and then saying "but I've never been there" kind of disqualifies your "opinion". Or don't go and believe what you hear, who cares?
The hate and dredging up of old stereotypes about any ski area is boring.
I ski all the Catskills areas.
Plattekill is great when there is good snow, not so much this season.
Belleayre is a classic ridgeline ski area with little long sustained vertical. Better natural snow than Hunter or Windham and they do a good job leaving 4 of the steep pitches at the top bumped up and supplied with snowmaking.
Windham is OK but nothing stands out about it to me other than the upscale skier emphasis. Hey having a sushi chef on staff doling out sushi in the cafeteria sells.
Hunter has the best snowmaking and completely blows all the other Catskill ski areas away in terms of sustained vertical and steeps. Think west side.
Take your pick if you want to ski there. Why not try each place out and come to your own conclusions? Saying you heard this and that about any ski area and then saying "but I've never been there" kind of disqualifies your "opinion". Or don't go and believe what you hear, who cares?
The hate and dredging up of old stereotypes about any ski area is boring.
Killingtime
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Thanks Jim G. Heard Windham is replacing the old Whistler triple with a new 6-pack this coming summer. They are obviously doing something right, unless they are getting it cheap from the Heritage Club in Vermont ha. Anyway, after a ten year hiatus from the Catskills I skied Windham twice this year on my Max Pass and had a great time. Also had fun at Belleayre but liked Windham a little more. Was able to lap Wedel and Wicked all day. As far as stereotypes, couldn't really see much difference other than Windham has a nicer base area and some really expensive slopeside real estate. Haven't skied Hunter in years but Tannersville looks like it went through some rough times.
Funky_Catskills
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Tannersville is on the upswing!! New vitality.. New restaurants and bars and shops!! Real estate is going up too!
So many places to choose from now... I still like Last chance Cheese the best though...
With the addition of new trails at Hunter Mountain there will be a new parking area created which will bring people into and past the Village of Hunter which is super cool!! 90% of the people that ski turn left before even coming into the village...
I think they each have their pros and cons. Platty needs natural snow without a doubt. When they have it though...they're great. And they have some decent sustained vertical on their main trails as well. Their glades are well maintained too. Add in the fact that it is never crowded and it is easily my number 1 choice for a holiday weekend which is when I usually make it to the Cats now (conditions permitting).
Belleayre may lack a bit of sustained vertical, but I like the variety of bumps they have. They'll have bumps on all levels of trails (the bumps on that short trail just above the base of the Superchief were terrific to help build some confidence when I was first learning...as were the bumps on the side of Belleayre Run that you could cut in and out of). Throw in some nice natural trails too and it is an extremely enjoyable mountain.
It has been a while since I've been to Windham, but I remember enjoying their terrain as well. Upper Wheelchair, Wedel, Way out, Upper Wipeout, and the East peak diamonds were all fun and tended to not see as many crowds as the trails in the middle of the mountain from what I remember. Crowds in general here can be an issue though on weekends and was one of the main reasons I ended up skiing Belleayre and Platty much more often.
Hunter has great vertical...but I absolutely hated the crowds on weekends. I just couldn't do it. If I could ski here midweek, it would certainly be higher up my list due to the terrain. I also felt like too many people were too stereotypical "NYC/NJ" people and I didn't care for that vibe. The other areas seemed more laid back and relaxed. Of course, Hunter obviously has appeal to many otherwise they wouldn't be so crowded!
This is my exact order of preference as well. If crowds were a non-issue, Hunter would probably move to #2 on my list. Platty's old-school retro vibe is just difficult to overcome. It does without a doubt drop down the list if there's no natural snow though...
Hunter has issues with its' reputation no doubt and nothing has been done to counter that...either by PEAKS so far or by the Slutzkys ever.
I just can't bring myself to debate anyone about issues like crowds and vibes. That is extremely personal and relatively undebatable. That is in large part due to the fact that I have been a regular at Hunter for 30 years as a pass holder or employee and I know my impressions will not change. Everyone is free to believe or feel as they choose.
My only reply is that since I ski all over the Cats lift conversation always seems to come around to a complaint when I mention I like Hunter. More than a few skiers at other mountains tell me they don't like Hunter because they believe the snow Hunter blows is harder than snowmaking at their home hill. And there you have it.
I just can't bring myself to debate anyone about issues like crowds and vibes. That is extremely personal and relatively undebatable. That is in large part due to the fact that I have been a regular at Hunter for 30 years as a pass holder or employee and I know my impressions will not change. Everyone is free to believe or feel as they choose.
My only reply is that since I ski all over the Cats lift conversation always seems to come around to a complaint when I mention I like Hunter. More than a few skiers at other mountains tell me they don't like Hunter because they believe the snow Hunter blows is harder than snowmaking at their home hill. And there you have it.
Hah...seriously? That's a new one for me. Certainly not something I ever saw firsthand either having skied all the areas...
I do also agree with your earlier statement that everyone should ski all the areas and come to their own conclusions. Different people look for different things and might certainly have different opinions. Things would be boring if everyone had the same exact opinions...
Seriously.
Probably means they don't like steep icy terrain. Not sure it's possible for water to freeze harder in one area of the Cats as opposed to another. Just like when a skier tells me the runs are "nicer" at a mountain it means they like the grooming and lesser pitch.
Harvey
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As we all know Hunter blows a ton, probably more than anyone in NY, so it would make sense that a greater portion of their base is manmade.
I don't get the Hunter hate.
I don't get the Hunter hate.
It was great on Saturday. Sweet bump lines on lower K and especially upper crossover.
But it is clear that there was a lot less snow blown this season than in years past.
MEtoVTSkier
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And or stoned...
Funky_Catskills
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#fakenews
BenedictGomez
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You're not allowed to hate any New York ski area.
I do get the Hunter hate, it's called Saturday.
Harvey
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I'm not driven by hate. I don't hate any ski area and I can do what ever I want.
Scruffy
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+1
