border patrol

[andyzee]

If I haven't been doing/don't have something I shouldn't, then I shouldn't have to have my rights infringed upon. It's as simple as that.

It's not a question of inconvenience. It's a question of rights.

I thought it was "Protect and serve" not "Dictate and intimidate"

 

[ctenidae]

It is quite funny how many of you are saying what about YOUR rights, but yet have posted many times of taking away other rights of others.........

Where?

"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will lose both." "Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security." Benjamin Franklin.

Unfortunately, "Democracy is the best way to ensure the People get the government the People deserve." -Thomas Jefferson

 

[Hawkshot99]

Where?

Not in this thread, but through reading over time. Don't care enough to go search though. But when a person has different opinions they see things that happen entirely differently.


I am not saying this from here, but the NRA that was mentioned earlier. Is it not infronging upon people's rights to take away any of their guns?:uzi: It says it in the Constitution.....;-)

 

[dmc]

In england right now... Last time i was here I had issues getting through customs because i said I was there to help sell security software... I got the third degree on why? Who? Why can't someone from England do this?

This time I just said I was helping a co-worker out on some computer stuff.. Walked right through....

The customs line in London is pretty scarey if you get freaked by middle easterners... Which I'm not...

 

[ed-drum]

It isn't infringing on peoples rights to take their guns away? It says it in the Constitution? WHERE? The definition of Militia is PEOPLES army. Hitler took the guns away. That was one of the first things he did! What Constitution are you talking about? The right to bear arms (the PEOPLES right to bear arms) shall not be infringed. When that nutcase Charles Whitman shot all the people from the tower at the University in Austin Texas, the PEOPLE got their guns, shot back at him to pin him down and two brave souls went to the top of the tower and killed him. Now, as in the last University shooting where they banned guns on campus, the shooter killed a lot of people while cops tried to figure out what to do. Oh yeah, before I get "cop bashed", my brother is a retired cop who was shot while interrupting a robbery. These are not opinions, they are facts. Ed.

 

[LongStep]

It isn't infringing on peoples rights to take their guns away? It says it in the Constitution? WHERE? The definition of Militia is PEOPLES army. Hitler took the guns away. That was one of the first things he did! What Constitution are you talking about? The right to bear arms (the PEOPLES right to bear arms) shall not be infringed. When that nutcase Charles Whitman shot all the people from the tower at the University in Austin Texas, the PEOPLE got their guns, shot back at him to pin him down and two brave souls went to the top of the tower and killed him. Now, as in the last University shooting where they banned guns on campus, the shooter killed a lot of people while cops tried to figure out what to do. Oh yeah, before I get "cop bashed", my brother is a retired cop who was shot while interrupting a robbery. These are not opinions, they are facts. Ed.

the right to bear arms and form militia is the check the founders gave us to protect us from tyranny. Checks and balances do exist and I find it funny when people would gladfully give up the one check they have over the boys up top.

 

[ed-drum]

The gun confiscation is starting. They are trying to do it in Boston, and now Washington D.C. is trying to do it. The people are telling them to stick it. Hold on, my tin foil hat just fell in my eyes.......................... that's better, I had to adjust it. Check it out on Badcopnews.com. Ed.

 

[ctenidae]

The gun confiscation is starting. They are trying to do it in Boston, and now Washington D.C. is trying to do it. The people are telling them to stick it. Hold on, my tin foil hat just fell in my eyes.......................... that's better, I had to adjust it. Check it out on Badcopnews.com. Ed.

Supreme Court's going to knock down DC's law. Hopefully before they can act on it.

 

[Dr Skimeister]

Now it all makes sense.....

From a Mount Snow email:

We have some unfortunate news regarding the Toots and the Maytals concert Saturday night. There is a visa issue with Toots and the Maytals, their agency and U.S. immigration. At 4:30 pm on Friday, we were notified that the Department of Homeland Security are not allowing them into the United States until Monday, at the very earliest. We were told that this resulted in the cancellation of three shows: Mount Snow, one in New Hampshire and one in Boston.

Got to keep those hemp smoking Reggae heads out of Vermont!

 

[andyzee]

From a Mount Snow email:

We have some unfortunate news regarding the Toots and the Maytals concert Saturday night. There is a visa issue with Toots and the Maytals, their agency and U.S. immigration. At 4:30 pm on Friday, we were notified that the Department of Homeland Security are not allowing them into the United States until Monday, at the very earliest. We were told that this resulted in the cancellation of three shows: Mount Snow, one in New Hampshire and one in Boston.

Got to keep those hemp smoking Reggae heads out of Vermont!

Guess they can't keep out terrorists, so they have to do something to prove they're doing their job.

 

[ed-drum]

The Lou Dobbs show on CNN had a story about how the state of Arizona's border patrol and Homeland Security is not prosecuting anyone for smuggling less than 500 pounds of dope that has been detected at border checkpoints. The prosecution rate is only .4%. Which means that 99.6% of the smugglers are set free. (where does the weed go? HMMM!) I guess there goes the "checking for drug trafficking" reason for these stops that are far away from our borders. Ed.

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

The Lou Dobbs show on CNN had a story about how the state of Arizona's border patrol and Homeland Security is not prosecuting anyone for smuggling less than 500 pounds of dope that has been detected at border checkpoints. The prosecution rate is only .4%. Which means that 99.6% of the smugglers are set free. (where does the weed go? HMMM!) I guess there goes the "checking for drug trafficking" reason for these stops that are far away from our borders. Ed.

Too bad the Mexican weed is mostly crap..as long as the Canadian pot makes it into the US..I'm happy..:beer:

 

[ed-drum]

Yeah, they had pictures of the stuff they confiscate. It was brown looking dried up dirt weed. I heard about some guys (I didn't know them ) who were growing in Dutchess county N.Y. in the ' 90's and they got caught with 80lbs.(!) However, the newspaper said there was only 40lbs. .COPS? GRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ed.

 

[tjf67]

I was going from Tupper Lake to Long Lake yesterday and the border patrol was there. I had just freshened up when I came around the corner and bam they were there. They had a dog. My windows went down. Pulled up they asked me where I was born and off I went. I was crapping in my knickers the dog was going to start going crazy. Not a problem. I was polite they were polite and I was on my way. No harm done

 

[Dr Skimeister]

I was going from Tupper Lake to Long Lake yesterday and the border patrol was there. I had just freshened up when I came around the corner and bam they were there. They had a dog. My windows went down. Pulled up they asked me where I was born and off I went. I was crapping in my knickers the dog was going to start going crazy. Not a problem. I was polite they were polite and I was on my way. No harm done

Those must have been the dogs trained to sniff out dark skinned hombres, not red-eyed ones.

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

Those must have been the dogs trained to sniff out dark skinned hombres, not red-eyed ones.

Sounds good as I'm a red eyed Hombre..lol..at least after 4:20PM..lol

 

[ComeBackMudPuddles]

The past few times I've been down 91 it has been closed but the signs and trailer are still set up. The accidents were in NY on the Northway(I87). Not sure if they set that one up anymore.
http://www.senate.gov/~schumer/Schu..._releases/2004/PR02921.I87accident092104.html

They subsequently (and thankfully) installed a bunch of rumble strips and bright, flashing signs (a little late for that family of 4). It also made the checkpoint seem much more "permanent", but it rarely seems to be manned (at least when I drive by it).

One of the justifications I heard for the border checkpoint was that it was meant to deter the trade in illegal immigrants from China passing through Canada on the way to NYC (both to stop illegal immigrants from coming, and to help stop poor Chinese workers from getting conned into basically becoming indentured servants for x number of decades in the U.S. to pay off their travel debt). There are a number of barely manned/easily traversed checkpoints between the U.S. and Canada, and, somehow, these additional interstate checkpoints are supposed to counteract illegal crossings (because, of course, those trafficing in drugs, people and terrorism presumably can't be bothered to get off the exit before the stop and get back on the highway at the next exit :roll.

Don't really feel like getting sucked into the constitutional arguments on this thread, but, as someone mentioned, I think driving is a privilege, not a right, and the state has a legitimate interest in insuring drivers aren't drunk, driving without insurance, not trafficing illegal immigrants, etc., on our roads, so a minimal amount of intrusion into our lives isn't unreasonable and probably isn't unconstitutional.

 

[Plowboy]

They subsequently (and thankfully) installed a bunch of rumble strips and bright, flashing signs (a little late for that family of 4). It also made the checkpoint seem much more "permanent", but it rarely seems to be manned (at least when I drive by it).

One of the justifications I heard for the border checkpoint was that it was meant to deter the trade in illegal immigrants from China passing through Canada on the way to NYC (both to stop illegal immigrants from coming, and to help stop poor Chinese workers from getting conned into basically becoming indentured servants for x number of decades in the U.S. to pay off their travel debt). There are a number of barely manned/easily traversed checkpoints between the U.S. and Canada, and, somehow, these additional interstate checkpoints are supposed to counteract illegal crossings (because, of course, those trafficing in drugs, people and terrorism presumably can't be bothered to get off the exit before the stop and get back on the highway at the next exit :roll.

Don't really feel like getting sucked into the constitutional arguments on this thread, but, as someone mentioned, I think driving is a privilege, not a right, and the state has a legitimate interest in insuring drivers aren't drunk, driving without insurance, not trafficing illegal immigrants, etc., on our roads, so a minimal amount of intrusion into our lives isn't unreasonable and probably isn't unconstitutional.

I think I read somewhere that the troopers on the Northway were going to be using Automatic licence plate recognition (ALPR).

 

[Warp Daddy]

I was going from Tupper Lake to Long Lake yesterday and the border patrol was there. I had just freshened up when I came around the corner and bam they were there. They had a dog. My windows went down. Pulled up they asked me where I was born and off I went. I was crapping in my knickers the dog was going to start going crazy. Not a problem. I was polite they were polite and I was on my way. No harm done

Had same experience at the same location on 4/2---------------been thru it there on more than one occasion ! Never heard of any major arrests or interdictions there tho

 

[ctenidae]

And then there's this:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topsto...ps-and-mobile-phones-searched-89520-20405885/