Cannon Lover's Thread

[tumbler]

nothing on piste at an eastern ski area is a 'no fall area'

Generally no, but a groomed Steins that is firm puts you into the woods skiers right. I know of one death from that fall an have help patrol extricate injured people from the woods

 

[thetrailboss]

Generally no, but a groomed Steins that is firm puts you into the woods skiers right. I know of one death from that fall an have help patrol extricate injured people from the woods

After I hit "post reply" I realized that an icy White Heat, Gondola Line, White Nitro, and a few other steep runs could also qualify as "do not fall" but not in the western sense of going off cliffs, etc. In fact, Sunday River used to have a warning sign at the top of White Heat warning of it being a "no fall" zone.

 

[ceo]

The no-fall zone at Cannon is that really sharp right at the bottom of Upper Ravine. Profile on an icy day can be pretty scary too.

 

[Smellytele]

The no-fall zone at Cannon is that really sharp right at the bottom of Upper Ravine. Profile on an icy day can be pretty scary too.

Some guy died at the bottom of profile a few years ago. went flying past the lift flew off the lip and hit some other guy below.

 

[KustyTheKlown]

“No fall zone” means nearly guaranteed death for going over a cliff or into gnarled rocks etc. an icy groomer in New England is not a “no fall zone” even tho it may be dangerous to fall. This may be semantics, but you sound like a bunch of pansies calling New England groomers no fall zones

 

[BodeMiller1]

This.

Wrong, although you're most likely not going to fall 1,000 ft; it doesn't take 1,000 ft to kill you. So is your argument you can get more dead [sic] out west. Are you two Grateful Dead fans. If you are that's oaky.... NOT.

Please explain your death wish status or I challenge you to a ski - off.


Looks like more snow today.

 

[BodeMiller1]

The no-fall zone at Cannon is that really sharp right at the bottom of Upper Ravine. Profile on an icy day can be pretty scary too.

I saw a corpse being dragged out of Spooky. The tram cut -through is ALL man-made built-up terraces. Look down skier's left with snow you have a 20' drop into hardwoods. If that's not enough, most mountains trim fallen tree limbs that could impale one. Cannon seems to relish in letting dead trees lie where they fall.

When Cannon opened DJ's Tramline, ski patrol was cutting old rebar out of the trail. Catch an edge on rock, shame on you, catch a ski on rebar, umm not sure.

Now if you two are talking avalanches, that's one thing, butt your "you can't get hurt or die at little old Cannon" is not true.

 

[KustyTheKlown]

we didnt say you cant get hurt or die at cannon. you can get hurt or die anywhere. we said you are grossly misusing the term 'no fall zone', and you are. you're talking about icy eastern groomers.

 

[thetrailboss]

Wrong, although you're most likely not going to fall 1,000 ft; it doesn't take 1,000 ft to kill you. So is your argument you can get more dead [sic] out west. Are you two Grateful Dead fans. If you are that's oaky.... NOT.

Please explain your death wish status or I challenge you to a ski - off.


Looks like more snow today.

Um, put the crack pipe down.

 

[Duke61]

They do shut snowmaking early. Usually its not an issue but this year it will be.

I've been envious of what loon has done this year. I know loon is custom made for Boston but goddammit they run the best mtn ops on nh hands down. I a m-w skier so crowding is not a concern. I may try it out next year. I miss the ski93 pa

Some guy died at the bottom of profile a few years ago. went flying past the lift flew off the lip and hit some other guy below.

Its a bit morbid but I can literally see this happen in my mind, that must have been a hell of a ride and to nail another skier on your way.....wow.

 

[Duke61]

I saw a corpse being dragged out of Spooky. The tram cut -through is ALL man-made built-up terraces. Look down skier's left with snow you have a 20' drop into hardwoods. If that's not enough, most mountains trim fallen tree limbs that could impale one. Cannon seems to relish in letting dead trees lie where they fall.

When Cannon opened DJ's Tramline, ski patrol was cutting old rebar out of the trail. Catch an edge on rock, shame on you, catch a ski on rebar, umm not sure.

Now if you two are talking avalanches, that's one thing, butt your "you can't get hurt or die at little old Cannon" is not true.

Anyone who's hiked the (I think its) ridge trail, it crosses and uses a bit of the tram line, it looks like the biggest waste dump of trees, rocks, all oversized ready to swallow you. Its a different world and reminds me of how awesome the white mountains are.

 

[bigbob]

Its a bit morbid but I can literally see this happen in my mind, that must have been a hell of a ride and to nail another skier on your way.....wow.

Years back a skier died at Loon by hitting a tree, proably at a corner. When the slopes are icy, like they are now, it is easy to fall and not be able to get stopped before the woods gets in your way. I saved a skier that fell on Triple Trouble at Loon. She was headed for the woods. i got infront of her in time. i was shacking, but she was fine. her Phusband came down with her skis after she had yard saled, we got them back on and got her standing. patrol came along, made her take her skis off and gave her a sled ride out of there. The week before was when the other skier died. i think it was around valantines day.
Ripsaw was a sheet of ice yesterday at the steepest section, should of been closed. One and done on that one.

 

[thetrailboss]

So how did we get from loving Cannon to talking about 101 ways to die on a ski trail?

 

[pinion]

I prefer 99 Ways to Die. We're not ready to see you yet...

This thread reminds me that I have not been to Cannon since the pandemic started and I should fix that sometime in Feb.

 

[ceo]

Anyone who's hiked the (I think its) ridge trail, it crosses and uses a bit of the tram line, it looks like the biggest waste dump of trees, rocks, all oversized ready to swallow you. Its a different world and reminds me of how awesome the white mountains are.

I think you're thinking of Kinsman Ridge Trail, which crosses Kinsman Glade several times. I hiked down it last summer and was like, "wait, I skied this?!"

 

[BodeMiller1]

Worst I saw at Cannon was when they had the tubing park at the bottom of the hill. Everything was fine and then a girl wanted to ride with her friend. Maybe the extra weight or goblins... The two kids went over the last brim and headed to the lodge just outside the bar. They're picking up speed and I'm yelling with another person, "Jump off!". I know if I cross check them, 1) I'm hurt, 2) I launch them onto the deck. They were headed like they were going to be decapitated. It happened very fast. Yep,

The two girls went under the deck and were shaken up. Very lucky.

 

[BodeMiller1]

My biggest fear is having my boots go under a down tree that's not going to give. It happened to Stormchaser. No matter what happens it's a bad day.

 

[KustyTheKlown]

My biggest fear is having my boots go under a down tree that's not going to give. It happened to Stormchaser. No matter what happens it's a bad day.

a few years ago magic got a huge storm. i think it was november. and obviously they opened everything with a ski it at your own risk. i was with a buddy, a snowboarder, in the trees, and his board went under a downed tree and his upper body kept going. his day was over. his season was not. he got lucky.

 

[SteezyRob]

random thought but the thing i like least about cannon is their lack of ungroomed terrain (someone mentioned that they do not groom enough earlier). the only trail they consistently let be ungroomed is hardscrabble. if there's not natural snow than cannon really has nothing to offer. granted it's not my home mtn but that's just my experience.
obviously excluding mittersill. i could spend a whole season there.

 

[thetrailboss]

As seen at Alta. Retired patroller who grew up at Cannon. Splits time between Boston and Utah.