• Welcome to AlpineZone, the largest online community of skiers and snowboarders in the Northeast!

    You may have to REGISTER before you can post. Registering is FREE, gets rid of the majority of advertisements, and lets you participate in giveaways and other AlpineZone events!

Cannon Lover's Thread

jcw

New member
Joined
Jan 8, 2026
Messages
9
Points
3
Interesting, we were there pretty much all late summer to fall and had the equipment to take care of that for them quickly if they wanted.

It would make since to skip the Banshee area with no Tram.
You're a talented operator and a brilliant mind in the business. I bet you recognize the complexity of contract or capital decisions at SONH, particularly when it involves federal money, which the mainline project did.
 

Newpylong

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 20, 2005
Messages
5,580
Points
113
Location
Upper Valley, NH
You are mistaking me for the boss man, who is all of the above. He's the best!

I don't want to imagine all the bureaucracy that must be navigated by you guys.
 
  • Like
Reactions: jcw

jcw

New member
Joined
Jan 8, 2026
Messages
9
Points
3
U18 nationals is on barons this year, not really sure how you run that event without a second route off the top. Guess you can close the saddle for a week and block paying customers from riding the double? not a good option for customers and not fun for staff.

I agree on banshee and jaspers.
You're right. Not fun. We're going after the double when it gets cold again, multiple routes.

To get the most pressure and volume, we'll isolate the Mittersill loop. You will see a few flakes fly at Tuckerbrook, along that line.
 

Zap71

Member
Joined
Nov 3, 2024
Messages
46
Points
8
Location
Littleton,N.H
Does anyone remember what year it was before they had pipes on paulies they pulled hoses from Avalaunch over to blow Paulies. I may have pictures somewhare and will try to find them and post.
 

Vter

Active member
Joined
Mar 6, 2022
Messages
109
Points
28
YO yo JCW,
Your input on this forum is so appreciated. I’m not living the Franconia Dream anymore, now in NE VT for many years in the Greens (Stowe, Smuggs, Jay), however I spent many many years in your backyard.
I read with appreciation your comments.
Thank you (got friends, can travel)
Ps. You’re probably too young to remember the Mass Ski Club in the 70’s, it was a Trip, every other weekend and We Ski’d & partied like it was legal :)
 
  • Like
Reactions: jcw

jcw

New member
Joined
Jan 8, 2026
Messages
9
Points
3
Does anyone remember what year it was before they had pipes on paulies they pulled hoses from Avalaunch over to blow Paulies. I may have pictures somewhare and will try to find them and post.
Thought about it last winter. Long hose run...
 

jcw

New member
Joined
Jan 8, 2026
Messages
9
Points
3
So has Cannon ever used just the Upper pod for early or late season skiing before? Seems a bit ironic if they have concentrated on the upper pod this year, when they could have done that before easily accessed by the (wait for it) Tram.

I remember the T bars as well. And (DHS, because we talked about it before) I have an old map that shows some sort of lift over to the left of Peabody from the triple (was a double back then) to the area near the top of Peabody. (may have to zoom in on it sorry). Also note the Banshee T Bar near the bottom of the tram. (skied those trails never rode the T-Bar) View attachment 66797

Shows up better then I thought

Couldn't resist on this one. Short answer: Snowmaking is altogether simple imo -- you make snow when (and where) it's cold.

Like a great NFL playoff offense that takes what the defense gives, crews follow temps. In November it's customary to see a prolonged inversion, which gives me confidence in the strategy of going for top to bottom skiing from the beginning, but it didn't really show up this year. Wet bulbs remained ideal up top while base were marginal or worse, including after finishing UC and Tramway. Well hell, you figure, it's still cold up here and warm down there. Let's keep going here. Plus, blowing Profile, then we get snow under a lift (in case you need it).

I have so much respect for my predecessor and the past teammates here, as this is an enormously complex place, so I can't comment on past decisions. However, skiing on the upper mountain early, with a download via tram, could be done in the future.
 

chuckstah

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 22, 2013
Messages
1,716
Points
83
Couldn't resist on this one. Short answer: Snowmaking is altogether simple imo -- you make snow when (and where) it's cold.

Like a great NFL playoff offense that takes what the defense gives, crews follow temps. In November it's customary to see a prolonged inversion, which gives me confidence in the strategy of going for top to bottom skiing from the beginning, but it didn't really show up this year. Wet bulbs remained ideal up top while base were marginal or worse, including after finishing UC and Tramway. Well hell, you figure, it's still cold up here and warm down there. Let's keep going here. Plus, blowing Profile, then we get snow under a lift (in case you need it).

I have so much respect for my predecessor and the past teammates here, as this is an enormously complex place, so I can't comment on past decisions. However, skiing on the upper mountain early, with a download via tram, could be done in the future.
It was definitely done in the past. I remember a Halloween opening up top with up and down loading on the tram. Early 90's I think? Cannon also stayed open until May at least one season in the 90's, top to bottom. Hardscrabble was still in play, but you had to get back to the other side.
 

snoseek

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 7, 2006
Messages
6,635
Points
113
Location
NH
It was definitely done in the past. I remember a Halloween opening up top with up and down loading on the tram. Early 90's I think? Cannon also stayed open until May at least one season in the 90's, top to bottom. Hardscrabble was still in play, but you had to get back to the other side.
1991 to be exact was the year they opened super early on top. It.was a blast that fall!
 

Dezzy

New member
Joined
Jun 25, 2025
Messages
21
Points
3
“However, skiing on the upper mountain early, with a download via tram, could be done in the future.”

I would rather see it late season (just like a few of the other people who post here I guess), too bad the typical old guys skiing midweek don’t rip bumps all day, I know there likely wouldn’t be enough paying customers to justify it:)
 
Top