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Obviously we have some differences of opinion here. Some folks thing there may be a bit too much censorship and control here. Others think some folks are just trolling and trying to start trouble. So, here's my challenge, bring it to nschat.com where you can debate to your hearts content without fear of retribution or being banned or having your thread deleted.

Nah, didn't think so..

I won't lie. I check out your nschat at least once a week. Kind of a guilty pleasure like the Springer show or National Enquirer in the check out lane at the grocery store. There's some good conversation. I like a number of members who frequent your site.

However, there's also a lot of deliberate intent by many of your members, including yourself to insult people as often as you possibly can. It's not good fun amongst 'friends' either. It's funny, most of your prime members, including yourself, went freaking NUTS when GSS was banned from here. Then over on your 'freedom' site, the same folks who supported GSS here, beat the living piss out of him verbally on your site such that the ultimate post whore in history barely posts over there,

Andy, you GET OFF on pissing people off. Sorry we suppress that kind of crap around here.
 

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I won't lie. I check out your nschat at least once a week. Kind of a guilty pleasure like the Springer show or National Enquirer in the check out lane at the grocery store. There's some good conversation. I like a number of members who frequent your site.

However, there's also a lot of deliberate intent by many of your members, including yourself to insult people as often as you possibly can. It's not good fun amongst 'friends' either. It's funny, most of your prime members, including yourself, went freaking NUTS when GSS was banned from here. Then over on your 'freedom' site, the same folks who supported GSS here, beat the living piss out of him verbally on your site such that the ultimate post whore in history barely posts over there,

Andy, you GET OFF on pissing people off. Sorry we suppress that kind of crap around here.

I have never ever pretended to like GSS, I tought he was a big goof on here and actually on my site he's far more tolerable. I wasn't so much defending him as the circumstance. Now, please give me an example or two where I get off on pissing people off.

Another thing, why would you compare my site to Springer/National Enquirer, please expand on that one.
 

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I had a big long PM written out for you Andy, but after writing all that I decided why bother. But I will leave you with this: AlpineZone is not all that different than it was back in 2004 when you joined. In fact, we're far more lax now than we were back then. Nevertheless, it seems the "evil" AZ over-moderation now gives you some sort of identity and in your sick mind somehow validates Andyzone for you. You must be truly excited to see there are about 15 other people that agree with you. My question is if AlpineZone is not for you, why do you continue to post here? Just leave. I can honestly say you won't be missed. You really do not add anything of value anyway.
 

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I had a big long PM written out for you Andy, but after writing all that I decided why bother. But I will leave you with this: AlpineZone is not all that different than it was back in 2004 when you joined. In fact, we're far more lax now than we were back then. Nevertheless, it seems the "evil" AZ over-moderation now gives you some sort of identity and in your sick mind somehow validates Andyzone for you. You must be truly excited to see there are about 15 other people that agree with you. My question is if AlpineZone is not for you, why do you continue to post here? Just leave. I can honestly say you won't be missed. You really do not add anything of value anyway.

Talk about a tempest in a teapot.

It's Greg's web site. He can set whatever guidelines he wants and moderate forums to enforce the guidelines. I have no problem with guidelines that are "G" rated, no attacks, no politics, and minimal tolerance for trolling. I have no issue with things being locked and/or deleted. Them's the rulez. Deal with it.

Andy's site is fun because it's an unmoderated version of the AlpineZone "Miscellaneous Discussions"

I don't quite get why people take issue with moderated message boards. There is certainly a place for them since the unmoderated ones can be intimidating to a lot of people.
 

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I had a big long PM written out for you Andy, but after writing all that I decided why bother. But I will leave you with this: AlpineZone is not all that different than it was back in 2004 when you joined. In fact, we're far more lax now than we were back then. Nevertheless, it seems the "evil" AZ over-moderation now gives you some sort of identity and in your sick mind somehow validates Andyzone for you. You must be truly excited to see there are about 15 other people that agree with you. My question is if AlpineZone is not for you, why do you continue to post here? Just leave. I can honestly say you won't be missed. You really do not add anything of value anyway.

Why is it when I say something you guys don't like, I am immediately told I can go to andyzone if I don't like it. Don't you ever consider that if someone has an opinion that differs from yours that maybe you can discuss like an adult and it will go away much quicker. Now, let's see how this started, In my case anyway, I found it unbelievable that Brian could actually state that he could see nothing political in a picture of a political rally. :lol: That immediately led to PMs by him telling me to cut the crap, him coming out saying how he may have to start banning people, wifee coming in telling me if I don't like it I know where I can go and then you. Then and only then did I put out this thread to take it to nschat.net , I did not want to get banned, but I did want to take this discussion further. Also, things work both ways, you can accuse me of using stuff like this to push my site. I on the other hand can accuse you of using my site to stop me from having an opinion, such as "You don't agree with what we say, you know where you can go", Backing up one last time. From the start, I never said anything about over-moderation. I just found it crazy that Brian could actually say there was nothing political in a picture of a political rally.
 

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LMAO! This is probably one of the most laid back forums I've ever seen the on interweb. 9 times out of 10, when a thread is locked, it's because it's moved. And it's moved because it was posted in the wrong forum. (Like a for sale ad posted in the trip reports section). The way some of you talk about "censorship", you'd think this was the USSR circa 1986.

I read a good portion of the threads here and half of the Andy "victimization" posts confuse me. Either I'm missing a lot of sh_t...or he's misinterpreting some of the posts. Or option C, creating a lot of drama for the sake of bumping up the readership of his own forum.

If some of you guys are getting that bent over a friggin internet site, I think it's time to turn off the PC and get some fresh air. Seriously, it's the internet; if it's not fun or informational, there are millions of other sites to visit. And yes, all this crap is very junior high-ish.
 

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LMAO! This is probably one of the most laid back forums I've ever seen the on interweb. 9 times out of 10, when a thread is locked, it's because it's moved. And it's moved because it was posted in the wrong forum. (Like a for sale ad posted in the trip reports section). The way some of you talk about "censorship", you'd think this was the USSR circa 1986.

I read a good portion of the threads here and half of the Andy "victimization" posts confuse me. Either I'm missing a lot of sh_t...or he's misinterpreting some of the posts. Or option C, creating a lot of drama for the sake of bumping up the readership of his own forum.

If some of you guys are getting that bent over a friggin internet site, I think it's time to turn off the PC and get some fresh air. Seriously, it's the internet; if it's not fun or informational, there are millions of other sites to visit. And yes, all this crap is very junior high-ish.

Thanks Glenn. Very well said, but be careful. You don't want to be labeled as part of the "inner circle". :roll:
 

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Thanks Glenn. Very well said, but be careful. You don't want to be labeled as part of the "inner circle". :roll:

I'm sure I'll be chastised elsewhere. ;-) Oh well, the risk I take for giving my opinion.
 

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Why is it when I say something you guys don't like, I am immediately told I can go to andyzone if I don't like it. Don't you ever consider that if someone has an opinion that differs from yours that maybe you can discuss like an adult and it will go away much quicker. Now, let's see how this started, In my case anyway, I found it unbelievable that Brian could actually state that he could see nothing political in a picture of a political rally. :lol: That immediately led to PMs by him telling me to cut the crap, him coming out saying how he may have to start banning people, wifee coming in telling me if I don't like it I know where I can go and then you. Then and only then did I put out this thread to take it to nschat.net , I did not want to get banned, but I did want to take this discussion further. Also, things work both ways, you can accuse me of using stuff like this to push my site. I on the other hand can accuse you of using my site to stop me from having an opinion, such as "You don't agree with what we say, you know where you can go", Backing up one last time. From the start, I never said anything about over-moderation. I just found it crazy that Brian could actually say there was nothing political in a picture of a political rally.

Do you know how to read, or have any reading comprehension skills? Where did I say that I was going to start banning people? I reminded people of the rules. I also never said that I didn't see anything political about the picture, what I said is that no one was making a political statement with the picture. There's a big difference. The reason that it was left up was because is clearly answered the question that was being asked. Sorry to hear that you guys read more into it.

I told you to cut the crap after you start cluttering up other threads with your childish banter that has nothing to do anything, other than attempting to skirt the no politics rule.

You have an opinion and that's fine, try to find a way to express it without acting like a 4th grader. I didn't see anything about your 'opinion' to my statement until this thread. All I saw was you acting like idiot, posting nonsense just to push buttons.

I also call bullshit on you not wanting to get banned, it's been apparent that your new mission in life is to push buttons over here until you eventually go to far and get banned. That would create even more purpose for your site.

Do you really think that we can't see right through all of your BS?
 

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WOW, my mistake, I didn't get the "PM" so I'm safe. Great to know. Now is there any possibility of having an open discussion here without it getting deleted if you disagree with it?

I got the PM last night. I will behave. No more loving days.
 

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sux to have to argue back and forth like this. The time and energy would be better spent discussing mogul skiing techniques and stuff. Or even ballet.
 

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Been up front no bs, things to do, sorry

Way to avoid the discussion when you get called out. :lol:

Seriously, you seem to have big problem with the way things are run here, so why do you keep coming back?
 

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sux to have to argue back and forth like this. The time and energy would be better spent discussing mogul skiing techniques and stuff. Or even ballet.

Or the upcoming Baseball season! WOOHOO!
 

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Way to avoid the discussion when you get called out. :lol:

Seriously, you seem to have big problem with the way things are run here, so why do you keep coming back?

OK, I try to discuss, I get accused of starting crap and pushing my site, I don't discuss I'm avoiding discussion. Sounds like a no win situation to me. So you tell me, you want a discussion or not. If you do. Open a thread and promise not to lock it or delete anything.
 
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