Eminent Domain..this is crazy

[andyzee]

2 words, BS

 

[riverc0il]

Liberals aren't concerned with teh individual- they're concerned with the Public.

true only to a limited point. this is more so the case in point with spending money on programs. most "liberal" politicians generally want to keep or enhance social programs whereas the "conservative" view point is cut social programs or reduce spending. to say this was a liberal decision is hog wash, it is a borderline communistic decision. emminent domain for social reasons is a liberal one, i have no idea what emminent domain for private development could possibly be. technically it isn't even communicistic since a corporation can do what ever they want with that land once it has been taken over.

 

[smitty77]

I hope the story is true, and I hope it all goes through. I would love to see it get shoved right up his arse. I don't care what the ruling implies. Sure states can pass legislation to close the loophole, but what if they do the opposite and open the floodgates for land-grabbing? I agree with SkiDog - I bought it, it's mine, and you're not going to take it from me.

Smitty

Just for arguments sake... Cause I love to play "devils advocate"...

What if you had several neighbors that had crappy trashed houses that were bringing your property values down and someone wanted to enact this law to put in nicer buildings that would crank your value back up and better the entire community?

Someone's been watching me.... :wink:
Your example sounds exactly like where I live. We built a new house a year and a half ago on a vacant lot in a neighborhood where probably 50% of the homes are "trashed houses". I always joked with friends and family that I never imagined I would be the "rich" one in the neighborhood. The town in general has very high unemployment and teen pregnancy rates. There are lots of other neighborhoods like mine. It was the only place I could afford a new house, but like every other town in central MA, the values are on the rise.

Back to your example. Suppose some builder were to convert all of the trashy homes in my neighborhood into huge 4000 sq.ft. colonials with 3 car garages and swimming pools. Property values skyrocket and now my small 1500 sq.ft. cape would be bringing down the value of these new homes. I'd be next on the list to have my house razed all in the name of "bettering the neighborhood". The benchmark gets raised, and someone is always left below the average. What goes around comes around.

Smitty

 

[dmc]

Interesting...
Was just reading that GWB and cronies used "Eminant Domain" to secure 13 acres of private land from private citizens to build the Texas Rangers stadium...


http://espn.go.com/mlb/bush/timeline.html

April: The Rangers shepherd through the Texas legislature a bill that creates the Arlington Sports Facilities Development Authority (ASFDA), a quasi-governmental entity that is given the power of eminent domain. Shortly after the bill is signed by new governor Ann Richards, 13 acres of private property are seized for the Rangers' new ballpark, later prompting two lawsuits.

 

[ctenidae]

I think you'll find that's the case with every stadium ever built. Not making excuses for GWB, just saying...

 

[dmc]

I think you'll find that's the case with every stadium ever built. Not making excuses for GWB, just saying...

But GWB is Mr Property rights - everyman - type dude...
And has dodged this question while the conservatives BLAST the liberals on it...

 

[SkiDog]

Interesting...
Was just reading that GWB and cronies used "Eminant Domain" to secure 13 acres of private land from private citizens to build the Texas Rangers stadium...


http://espn.go.com/mlb/bush/timeline.html

April: The Rangers shepherd through the Texas legislature a bill that creates the Arlington Sports Facilities Development Authority (ASFDA), a quasi-governmental entity that is given the power of eminent domain. Shortly after the bill is signed by new governor Ann Richards, 13 acres of private property are seized for the Rangers' new ballpark, later prompting two lawsuits.

You know that, like mentioned, this happens with almost all stadiums. I would ask what the "conditions" of that "private" land were? Was it nice, or a dump? The eminent domain law obviously isnt new, just this new "twist" on it. Still stinks..noone should ever have their personal property taken for any reason unless they feel like giving it up.

They would've invoked eminent domain in NYC if they had approved the new Jets stadium.

I think the Yanks aren't taking any private land though, they'll be using the park right next to the stadium..

M

 

[dmc]

You know that, like mentioned, this happens with almost all stadiums. I would ask what the "conditions" of that "private" land were? Was it nice, or a dump? The eminent domain law obviously isnt new, just this new "twist" on it. Still stinks..noone should ever have their personal property taken for any reason unless they feel like giving it up.

They would've invoked eminent domain in NYC if they had approved the new Jets stadium.

I think the Yanks aren't taking any private land though, they'll be using the park right next to the stadium..

M

I'm just saying - that it was GWB who is a Mr Property rights, Joe everyman, Don't pronounce G's, cowbow hat wearing kinda guy..
And he's not commenting... Cause he's done it.. He's taken peoples land for his profit....
And his supporters are ALL against this ruling.. Blasting the liberal judges gfor signing this thing...

 

[SkiDog]

You know that, like mentioned, this happens with almost all stadiums. I would ask what the "conditions" of that "private" land were? Was it nice, or a dump? The eminent domain law obviously isnt new, just this new "twist" on it. Still stinks..noone should ever have their personal property taken for any reason unless they feel like giving it up.

They would've invoked eminent domain in NYC if they had approved the new Jets stadium.

I think the Yanks aren't taking any private land though, they'll be using the park right next to the stadium..

M

I'm just saying - that it was GWB who is a Mr Property rights, Joe everyman, Don't pronounce G's, cowbow hat wearing kinda guy..
And he's not commenting... Cause he's done it.. He's taken peoples land for his profit....
And his supporters are ALL against this ruling.. Blasting the liberal judges gfor signing this thing...

Got ya...you're just commmenting that Bush inst blasting the supreme court about this ruling..

It certianly is a sticky subject.

M

 

[dmc]

You know that, like mentioned, this happens with almost all stadiums. I would ask what the "conditions" of that "private" land were? Was it nice, or a dump? The eminent domain law obviously isnt new, just this new "twist" on it. Still stinks..noone should ever have their personal property taken for any reason unless they feel like giving it up.

They would've invoked eminent domain in NYC if they had approved the new Jets stadium.

I think the Yanks aren't taking any private land though, they'll be using the park right next to the stadium..

M

I'm just saying - that it was GWB who is a Mr Property rights, Joe everyman, Don't pronounce G's, cowbow hat wearing kinda guy..
And he's not commenting... Cause he's done it.. He's taken peoples land for his profit....
And his supporters are ALL against this ruling.. Blasting the liberal judges gfor signing this thing...

Got ya...you're just commmenting that Bush inst blasting the supreme court about this ruling..

It certianly is a sticky subject.

M

It is....

 

[pizza]

I'm just saying - that it was GWB who is a Mr Property rights..

Interesting perspective.
From dedicated property rights activists (read: libertarians) he's basically universally loathed..