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I'm recovering from a bad accident. Hit a small 20' table top too fast, I over shot the landing and got pitch backward. Back of my head slammed into the ice then my shoulders hit and my hip hit the ice. Then hospital cat scan showed a bruised spine, hip and Kidney's. No head trama just a slight headache.

Helmet did it's job and saved my head, it was the 1st day with a brand new $200. helmet. The helmet looks in good shape just a small scratch, Dose it have to be replace because of 1 hard hit?

Ok, it did pay for it's self aready but it looks fine and it did cost 200 bucks.
 

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I'm recovering from a bad accident. Hit a small 20' table top too fast, I over shot the landing and got pitch backward. Back of my head slammed into the ice then my shoulders hit and my hip hit the ice. Then hospital cat scan showed a bruised spine, hip and Kidney's. No head trama just a slight headache.

Helmet did it's job and saved my head, it was the 1st day with a brand new $200. helmet. The helmet looks in good shape just a small scratch, Dose it have to be replace because of 1 hard hit?

Ok, it did pay for it's self aready but it looks fine and it did cost 200 bucks.

Check with the manufacturer. They might x-ray it for you.
 

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Definitely check with the manufacturer. Sounds like a pretty good chance that it's got damage inside that you can't see.
 

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My understanding has always been that when the helmet does it's duty to serve as a barrier between your coconut and whatever else it might have hit, the foam inside the shell of the helmet becomes compressed. Once that happens, the helmet can't be depended on to serve it's protective function again.
 

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My understanding has always been that when the helmet does it's duty to serve as a barrier between your coconut and whatever else it might have hit, the foam inside the shell of the helmet becomes compressed. Once that happens, the helmet can't be depended on to serve it's protective function again.

Correct
 

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My understanding has always been that when the helmet does it's duty to serve as a barrier between your coconut and whatever else it might have hit, the foam inside the shell of the helmet becomes compressed. Once that happens, the helmet can't be depended on to serve it's protective function again.


Ok, just suck it up. I just paid 200 bucks the save myself from 1 head trama. I guess my head was worth it.

This is the first time a helmet has ever saved me from certain head injury. Without it I would have been knocked out cold for sure.
 

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Ok, just suck it up. I just paid 200 bucks the save myself from 1 head trama. I guess my head was worth it.

This is the first time a helmet has ever saved me from certain head injury. Without it I would have been knocked out cold for sure.

Just maybe......

A testimonial to the helmet manufacturer, thanking them for the *superior* product they make and letting them know that *all* your friends are going to know how well their helmet saved you from certian head injury will result in some sort of courtesy towards a replacement.

*shrug*
 

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I believe some manufacturers have a crash replacement policy; they may give you a discounted rate on a replacement.
 

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Just wanted to mention that a $100 helmet protects you the same as a $200 helmet as they all have to meet the same ASA impact requirements. it's the paint job, the vent system, the adjustibilty, the outside finish/style and the materials used on the inside for comfort that costs the extra $100.

Hope you can get a replacement at a reduced cost but there are alot of great helmets out there for alot less. Glad your still with us!
 
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Dang..I'm on my 4th season of my helmet..I haven't fallin on my head hard yet...and $200 for a helmet..with Steep and Cheap that's not necassary..
 

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My guess is if it isn't dented, it's fine. Yeah, if the foam has been compressed that area of the helmet won't function as well, but I doubt the foam would get crushed without the plastic getting permanently deformed. Also, the likelihood of using that same spot on the helmet twice is fairly remote.

I've got about 4 dented areas on my helmet. I'm waiting for some Smith Variants to show up on tramdock, but until then, the helmet will probably do fine. Not worth wasting that much money getting a helmet somewhere else.
 

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My guess is if it isn't dented, it's fine. Yeah, if the foam has been compressed that area of the helmet won't function as well, but I doubt the foam would get crushed without the plastic getting permanently deformed. Also, the likelihood of using that same spot on the helmet twice is fairly remote.

I've got about 4 dented areas on my helmet. I'm waiting for some Smith Variants to show up on tramdock, but until then, the helmet will probably do fine. Not worth wasting that much money getting a helmet somewhere else.

The foam is much more compressable than the outer shell is dentable. The compression of the foam would be done by the skull's impact from within the helmet, as opposed to the ground's impact from outside.

I would guess that if an accident occured involving a helmet wearer and proof showed that the helmet was still being used after a previous impact, the helmet manufacturer would be excused from any liability.
 

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I would guess that if an accident occured involving a helmet wearer and proof showed that the helmet was still being used after a previous impact, the helmet manufacturer would be excused from any liability.

And what liability is there for the company if it is brand new? At a certain point nothing will save a person's head from impact.
 

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I imagine it's sort of like how a carseat is supposed to be replaced after any accident during which airbags go off. Even if there's no apparent damage, it's likely to have happened internally/microscopically and you don't want to take a chance.

Hopefully the manufacturer has some kind of replacement policy to help you save some dough.
 

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The foam is much more compressable than the outer shell is dentable. The compression of the foam would be done by the skull's impact from within the helmet, as opposed to the ground's impact from outside.

I would guess that if an accident occured involving a helmet wearer and proof showed that the helmet was still being used after a previous impact, the helmet manufacturer would be excused from any liability.
A. The load on the helmet is going to be much more centralized on the shell than on the skull. The plastic may be much stronger than the foam, but the impact is going to be focused on a very small part of the shell.

B. If it's the skull denting the foam, you could peel back the liner and look for damage. It would be focused at the surface.

C. I would guess that helmet manufacturers would be excused from liability in any case. Unless it's on camera and you could actually show exactly how the incident unfolded, the helmet company could always argue that it could have been worse or that there was nothing that would have saved them.
 

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I imagine it's sort of like how a carseat is supposed to be replaced after any accident during which airbags go off. Even if there's no apparent damage, it's likely to have happened internally/microscopically and you don't want to take a chance.

Unless the production of the materials in the carseat (or in this case helmet) are garbage, microscopic damage won't significantly reduce the effectiveness and any damage will be external.

Where's Marc when I need him...
 

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Unless the production of the materials in the carseat (or in this case helmet) are garbage, microscopic damage won't significantly reduce the effectiveness and any damage will be external.

Where's Marc when I need him...
Manufacturer's recommendation (and this is top of the line carseat, not a cheapo). Insurance companies do replace them after an accident because of this.
 
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