Hey Camp ... Subi Impreza 2012

[campgottagopee]

Three days ago. One of my good friends out here bought a 2010 last summer. Waste of money if you ask me considering the WRX's are almost just as quick for 10k less, and if Im not mistaken now have the widebody kits as well. Why someone would buy STI for anything else other than the name is beyond me.

Either way it has more road noise than my truck of all things, and my truck only cost 20k.

Ive driven a Suzuki of some form, forget the actual model name, but its a little tiny crossover similar to an Impreza wagon. Not only was it 5k cheaper, overall build quality was worlds and away better.

Subarus looks great on paper and scream practicality. Then you buy one and deal with rattles throughout the interior, cat converter issues, eating tires, etc etc etc. Id take anything else over a Subaru. You spend something like a tenth of your life or more commuting or traveling, might as well enjoy the ride.

My fiancee is a blind Subaru lover, which means I get stuck driving her around in her POS Forester. Before that it was an Impreza coupe from the late 90s, which was better as I liked the 2.2 motor more, but the rest of Subarus problems were all present.

The STI is a rally car, your gonna get road noise with a car built for performance. Nature of the beast.

Suzuki...that would be a good car for you.

 

[Edd]

Ive driven a Suzuki of some form, forget the actual model name, but its a little tiny crossover similar to an Impreza wagon. Not only was it 5k cheaper, overall build quality was worlds and away better.

Put me down as skeptical.

 

[AdironRider]

The STI is a rally car, your gonna get road noise with a car built for performance. Nature of the beast.

Suzuki...that would be a good car for you.

Bull. Its Subaru being cheap on a 35k+ vehicle. Im not talking raging engine noise or tuned exhaust. I shouldnt be driving over partitions in pavement and have it sound like someone turned the bass up to 11.

Look, Subarus can be fun, and they are pretty reliable, but if you want to enjoy your time in the car, there are plenty of other companies out there that deliver.

Nothing is wrong with having reliable, practical transportation, Id just rather enjoy the driving experience rather than have it be just practical and reliable.

 

[Black Phantom]

Bull. Its Subaru being cheap on a 35k+ vehicle. Im not talking raging engine noise or tuned exhaust. I shouldnt be driving over partitions in pavement and have it sound like someone turned the bass up to 11.

Look, Subarus can be fun, and they are pretty reliable, but if you want to enjoy your time in the car, there are plenty of other companies out there that deliver.

Nothing is wrong with having reliable, practical transportation, Id just rather enjoy the driving experience rather than have it be just practical and reliable.

He just told you to stick with your fucking suzuki. Why can't you just leave it at that and STFU?

 

[AdironRider]

I dont have a Suzuki, I drive a Nissan Frontier, something with real 4x4, gets 20-22mpg in the real world (when my girls Forester sees 24), and doesnt rattle everywhere and is actually somewhat enjoyable to drive.

He asked me to compare a comparable vehicle. The SX4(?) is just that, not that fwd POS you seem to think I was referencing. SX4 is cheaper, awd, and actually has better build quality.

Enjoy your shitbox Black Phantom, your a perfect example of blind love.

 

[Black Phantom]

I dont have a Suzuki, I drive a Nissan Frontier, something with real 4x4, gets 20-22mpg in the real world (when my girls Forester sees 24), and doesnt rattle everywhere and is actually somewhat enjoyable to drive.

He asked me to compare a comparable vehicle. The SX4(?) is just that, not that fwd POS you seem to think I was referencing. SX4 is cheaper, awd, and actually has better build quality.

Enjoy your shitbox Black Phantom, your a perfect example of blind love.

Why don't you try a lease, bird brain. I don't and would not drive a Subaru. Where did you draw that conclusion from?

Stick to your inane arguments re: Cannon little man. :evil:

 

[AdironRider]

Your irrational anger is confusing me.

And if you think anyone should ever lease a car, you definitely are retarded. But Im not really sure what your getting at. Am I supposed to lease a Suzuki, a Subaru?

If I wanted to throw money away Id go for hookers and blow before I leased a car, especially a Subaru.

 

[mondeo]

Waste of money if you ask me considering the WRX's are almost just as quick for 10k less, and if Im not mistaken now have the widebody kits as well. Why someone would buy STI for anything else other than the name is beyond me.

Better differentials, 6 speeds, lower Cg, stiffer spring/roll rates, faster steering ratio, stickier tires, better brakes, etc. There's more to life than drag races.

If I wanted something that could go fast in a straight line, I'd get a Mustang.

 

[Geoff]

You spend something like a tenth of your life or more commuting or traveling, might as well enjoy the ride.

2 1/2 hours per day in a car? No wonder you're doing AlpineZone flame wars.

 

[deadheadskier]

Nothing is wrong with having reliable, practical transportation,.

That's all I require in a vehicle and is the exact reason I refuse to buy a Subaru :lol:

 

[riverc0il]

That's all I require in a vehicle and is the exact reason I refuse to buy a Subaru :lol:

Funny! But the reality is that there are few vehicles on the market today that are not generally reliable. I guess even Kia's are not complete junk boxes any more, I hear? And practicality all depends upon your intended use. As I understand it, the head gasket issue was addressed. Sorry you got burned but I don't think that is any reason to hold a grudge all these years later against Subaru's latest models. Now their moving the Outback into moderately large Crossover territory and the Legacy into large sedan territory (as they look regardless of what is on the books) is a reason to hold a grudge! :lol:

Hey Camp, any latest info on when the 2012 Impreza Hatch will be available for a test drive in the USA? All the press said the Fall as I recall, but that is pretty vague. I was hoping they might be available by August. I'd be buying a new car this very month if that new Impreza were not on the way.

 

[deadheadskier]

My issue is the fact that practically every single person I've met who's driven a Subaru has had to have it fixed. That should be a recall. Head Gaskets don't fall under general maintenance in my eyes.

Someone in this very thread had the Head Gasket issue in their 2005. So, it's not that long ago. I'll believe it's been properly addressed when I hear from a number of people driving 2006/7 and newer models year to 150K miles and they don't have a problem.

Given I took very good care of a 2004 and it was practically falling apart by 2009 with 90K, doesn't give me a lot of confidence in the brand's reliability. The fact that I've driven a 2007 Hyundai to 145K miles now and have had nothing go wrong with it, reduces that confidence even further.

 

[Edd]

My last Subie, over 156,000 miles when I traded it in. It never left me stranded. It's a reliable brand in my book.

 

[campgottagopee]

Bull. Its Subaru being cheap on a 35k+ vehicle. Im not talking raging engine noise or tuned exhaust. I shouldnt be driving over partitions in pavement and have it sound like someone turned the bass up to 11.

Do you know what a rally car is??? :roll:

Hey Camp, any latest info on when the 2012 Impreza Hatch will be available for a test drive in the USA? All the press said the Fall as I recall, but that is pretty vague. I was hoping they might be available by August. I'd be buying a new car this very month if that new Impreza were not on the way.

Initially it was going to be August but with all that's still going on in Japan I've heard November mentioned.

 

[AdironRider]

That's all I require in a vehicle and is the exact reason I refuse to buy a Subaru :lol:

I may think they're rattle traps, but Im not going to knock their reliability. Outside of the cats going on her Forester once, in approx 200k of miles between her two Subarus, nothing else has gone wrong outside of replacing some of the longer maintenance interval items like shocks. Im not exactly nice to them either when I drive em given my general disregard for the brand.

 

[gmcunni]

Camp, stopped by my local Subaru dealer today to inquire about this offer -

$189/Month Lease
Lease a 2011 Impreza for $189/Month on a 42-Month Lease (Standard model, code BJA-01)**
Offer Ends July 5, 2011
$189 per month for 42 months with $1,188 due at lease signing. $0 security deposit. Tax, title and registration fees extra. Other leases available on other models. Cannot be combined with any other incentives.


got the "that car is really hard to get but we have something a bit more expensive if you are interested" and was wondering your thoughts on availability (manual / 5 door)?

 

[campgottagopee]

Camp, stopped by my local Subaru dealer today to inquire about this offer -

$189/Month Lease
Lease a 2011 Impreza for $189/Month on a 42-Month Lease (Standard model, code BJA-01)**
Offer Ends July 5, 2011
$189 per month for 42 months with $1,188 due at lease signing. $0 security deposit. Tax, title and registration fees extra. Other leases available on other models. Cannot be combined with any other incentives.


got the "that car is really hard to get but we have something a bit more expensive if you are interested" and was wondering your thoughts on availability (manual / 5 door)?

Well, they're not trying to "switch" you at all. I ran a locate here, and there are only 8 of those cars available in my entire district of which if I had a customer looking I'd have about 2 shots at getting them that car ( very slim chance at best). Subie inventory is sooooo bad right now and dealers aren't trading with each other....nobody has cars. IMO, it's going to be this way until the first of the year, some claim sooner but we'll see.

FWIW, the national ad on the 5 door you're looking for (bla-01) 220/ mo w/ 1219 down plkus, plus, plus.

Wish I had better news but I don't...good luck

 

[gmcunni]

Well, they're not trying to "switch" you at all. I ran a locate here, and there are only 8 of those cars available in my entire district of which if I had a customer looking I'd have about 2 shots at getting them that car ( very slim chance at best). Subie inventory is sooooo bad right now and dealers aren't trading with each other....nobody has cars. IMO, it's going to be this way until the first of the year, some claim sooner but we'll see.

FWIW, the national ad on the 5 door you're looking for (bla-01) 220/ mo w/ 1219 down plkus, plus, plus.

Wish I had better news but I don't...good luck

thanks for the sanity check, guess my quest continues.

 

[campgottagopee]

thanks for the sanity check, guess my quest continues.

Sanity?? You've come to the wrong place my friend :wink:

Just make a bunch of calls, you'll find one and you should be able to do most everything via phone or email.

 

[riverc0il]

I decided to hold back pulling the trigger on either the Elantra or Civic so Impreza is still on the table. Really want to make a purchase this summer but the Elantra is seeing poor (relative to its EPA estimates) MPG in the real world and the Civic, which has a lot going for it, just looks bland and lacks dual clutch which I prefer for the mountains. Accent has no sunroof (in the hatch)and has some space limitations and I think no dual clutch either. Looks like it is finally time to fix my breaks since I'll be waiting a few more months (been pretty scary lately ).

What looks even better than the Impreza hatch is the Mazda3 (also waiting until the fall). 40mpg for the sedan and I think 38 for the hatch? Good looks (less smiley), best in class performance, and either 38 or 40 mpg? I'm partial to the Mazda3 interior looks, as well. Impreza better be good to top that, AWD ain't worth that much to me (though I'd prefer to go with it if the rest of the car earns the nod).