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Hunter 2-12-12: a very mixed bag

legalskier

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Conditions: hardpack, ice, some manmade fresh, gale force winds

Best runs: Racers Edge, part of Eisenhower (active snowmaking)
Bumps: Lower K, Upper Crossover
Bullet proof skating rinks: Claire’s, Way Out, Colonel’s, Cliff, Hell Gate, Jimmy H, Upper K, Minya Konka, White Cloud

Arrived early with temp at 12 and wind trying to push the car door back at me as I got out. This was in the parking lot, not the top of the mountain (warning sign #1). It was early Sunday morning but the parking lot already was three quarters full (warning sign #2). Where did all these folks come from? Whatever, we had made the commitment so we weren’t going to be deterred. Got bundled up and ventured out to the line for the new Kaatskill Flyer- actually, it isn’t a line, more of a crowd split into funneling lines with traffic cop lifties controlling the flow. (Longest wait was @12 mins.) This was my first ride on the new lift- it’s very comfortable with padded seat and seat back, and very fast (except when it kept stopping). As we ascended we could see the guns going full blast on Racers and a few on Eisenhower, two trails we would lap a lot given the conditions on the other trails. We even rode up D Lift several times to mid just to avoid the Flyer situation and to access the manmade snow on those two trails. There is good coverage on many trails, a credit to the mountain ops crew. Unfortunately, most trails got scraped off quickly, or wind blown, and were frozen solid to boot. It was difficult to find good snow even at trail’s edge. The two trails with bumps did have some fresh snow but it was between the bumps whose deep sides were icy. There was no pattern to the bumps that allowed you to get into a sustained rhythm- there were long humps instead of rounded bumps, and even the height of them varied, so they were tricky. Lower 42nd St had a line of seeded bumps, but it was closed for training. The wind was so strong it was pushing people around up top. In fact, when I rode the old HSQ (now called the ZE lift) up to the top on the west side, the wind actually sounded like a train and some roof shingles on the lift operator’s booth were standing straight up. Stopped by "Scottie's Summit Cafe" for a cup of hot cocoa and saw all the old skis on the walls. A special mention goes to Claire’s Way, which was mostly flat- flat as an ice rink at a 35 degree angle. At one point I got concerned about making it down in one piece, even with my sharpened edges. I managed to get out ok and headed back to Racer’s for some fresh manmade and a face full of ice crystals.

Snowguns on lower Racer's:
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One of the crew on Lower K:
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Bumps & humps on Upper Cross:
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Looking down Claire's and the old Z lift:
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Looking up 44:
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I froze my fingers to bring you these shots!
 

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Thanks.

Looks like I made a good decision staying home yesterday. We were there on Saturday and it was frozen hardpack all day long. Certain runs like Jimmy Heuga had some fresh manmade and were fun to ski, other runs were tricky. Right edges of Racer's and Ike were also excellent. Bump course was fun but bumps were very hard and icy. Lower K was frozen and covered with equipment and bodies the one time I skied it. Speed control was essential.

I didn't want to brave the wind yesterday.
 

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I was there yesterday, and what started out as a superfast groomer day turned into survival mode pretty quickly after lunch.

I found Racer's Edge to be a mixed bag, as there were so many people going down that there was no consistency from the powder to scraped off bumps. I do agree with you about Eisenhower's being great, probably because most people didn't bother to ski past Racer's Edge to get to it.
 

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I found Racer's Edge to be a mixed bag, as there were so many people going down that there was no consistency from the powder to scraped off bumps. I do agree with you about Eisenhower's being great, probably because most people didn't bother to ski past Racer's Edge to get to it.

I was surprised how crowded it was for a non-holiday Sunday. Kennedy Drive (the trail next to Eisenhower) stayed in fairly decent shape because it's sheltered from the wind by the trees. Ditto for Mossy Brook. I found nice snow on Lower Crossover's trail edge on skier's right the entire length, basically hopping the top of the berm as if it were a bump run (the rest of the trail was very slick, however).
 
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Stopped by "Scottie's Summit Cafe" for a cup of hot cocoa and saw all the old skis on the walls. A special mention goes to Claire’s Way, which was mostly flat- flat as an ice rink at a 35 degree angle. At one point I got concerned about making it down in one piece, even with my sharpened edges. I managed to get out ok and headed back to Racer’s for some fresh manmade and a face full of ice crystals.

Snowguns on lower Racer's:
Photo-0195.jpg

One of the crew on Lower K:
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Bumps & humps on Upper Cross:
upper%2520cross.jpg

Looking down Claire's and the old Z lift:
claires.jpg

Looking up 44:
44.jpg

I froze my fingers to bring you these shots![/QUOTE]

Sorry the conditions were not so good, how you like my cafe lol?
 

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I pretty much spent the day lapping Clairs and Wayout..Clairs held up nice until and after lunch when we could start seeing ourselves on her. Its a much better run than it used to be...they take more care of it, groom it, blow snow on it. Racers was good for a while but the wind took its toll, today it was a sheet of crap, it just didn't hold the snow they blew on it..which ended up on Ike, which was in great shape all day today. Clairs was closed and from the looks of her..for good reason, they probably didn't want to spend the money grooming her as pres week is coming...Overall not a bad 2 days..need to keep it up as Big Sky is at the end of the month...and thats some serious vertical to contend with...
 

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What a difference a few miles makes. Belleayre was in best of the year shape. Got an inch of fresh over the day. Bumps were hero status. Windy but really not that bad. Must be the exposure. Bell is basically true North all the way accross. Hunter has more varied exposure and is more open in general.
 

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Bell gets more snow and is much more protected..all the runs are set up like a bowling alley..with trees in between...good on a powder day as it doesn't blow very far..Hunter...it all just blows away...
 
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