Jay - Intel

[dlague]

What the..... that's SERIOUSLY what the pizza place is called?

Actually they are called - Mountain Dick's Pizza to be more specific. Yup they did not think that one through or maybe they did - probably a dick on the mountain when he skis!

 

[fbrissette]

Not much to add to the previous comments.

I'll reiterate - take the tram at least once for the view, either very early or very late.
All of the runs of the face (Tucks, Face, Green Beret and Valhalla) are fun. I suggest Valhalla or Green Beret as the easiest ones. If the top of Green Beret is too hairy for your taste, there is a hidden second entrance 10 meters past the official one up the mount on your left.

Timbuktu and Beaver all clear choices as many have said but I'll also suggest North glade which you should access from Green Mountain Boys. Easy and usually in very good conditions. You have to use upper goat to get there however so get there not too late before it gets really icy. Buckaroo Bonzai from lower goat is usually very good, as is Buck's Wood.

I'll give you one little insider hint (not a big one). If you end up taking taxi to get back to tram side, at the very end of taxi, where it merges with lower goat onto Queen's highway, gather your speed and traverse to your left as high as you can. You'll find a little traverse to get you to Buck Wood and Buck Ridge. Fun easy glade with lots of drop offs. Much funnier than following traffic.

 

[dlague]

Not much to add to the previous comments.

I'll reiterate - take the tram at least once for the view, either very early or very late.
All of the runs of the face (Tucks, Face, Green Beret and Valhalla) are fun. I suggest Valhalla or Green Beret as the easiest ones. If the top of Green Beret is too hairy for your taste, there is a hidden second entrance 10 meters past the official one up the mount on your left.

Timbuktu and Beaver all clear choices as many have said but I'll also suggest North glade which you should access from Green Mountain Boys. Easy and usually in very good conditions. You have to use upper goat to get there however so get there not too late before it gets really icy. Buckaroo Bonzai from lower goat is usually very good, as is Buck's Wood.

I'll give you one little insider hint (not a big one). If you end up taking taxi to get back to tram side, at the very end of taxi, where it merges with lower goat onto Queen's highway, gather your speed and traverse to your left as high as you can. You'll find a little traverse to get you to Buck Wood and Buck Ridge. Fun easy glade with lots of drop offs. Much funnier than following traffic.

Good points that accompany or parallel what I posted earier

 

[HD333]

Awesome tips. Thanks guys.


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[Harvey]

In my limited experience at Jay, I was blown away by the spacing of the trees. There is an incredible amount of room to maneuver.

Makes me wonder how long before the glades are in serious trouble there. In any case it is fun as hell.

 

[LONGBOARDR]

In my limited experience at Jay, I was blown away by the spacing of the trees. There is an incredible amount of room to maneuver.

Makes me wonder how long before the glades are in serious trouble there. In any case it is fun as hell.

There are glades all over Jay some gently sloped, some steep, some wide and some narrow. Try Deliverance next to Canam
if you want to try a "more intimate" glade


JP history
One of the nice things Jay mgmt did was acknowledge past "plankholders" of Jay, by naming new outlets after them

Dick Lucier - mountain dick was one of them
Alice lewis Jay peaks mom alices table
Buddy loux buddy mug
and so on

my only comment is that an early visionary of Jay peak Walter Foeger should have more than a ballroom named after him

amazing guy grew the mountain and developed a ski method called natur teknik, also built alpine haven.

Lest we forget Father St Onge and Harold Haynes who made it all happen. They have trails named after them
the Haynes and St George Prayer

Lifts open in 10 minutes and it only -12 time to ski!

 

[therobertcollins]

[/url]Pow Line by Bob Misu, on Flickr

Was that pic of Powerline taken recently? (this week)

 

[rocojerry]

stay away from the trails that are not glades... pick any two trails on the map and go somewhere between them.. two blacks, and they are steep glades, two blues or black/blue, moderate glades...

 

[Abubob]

Was that pic of Powerline taken recently? (this week)

Nope. March 2014.


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[Sick Bird Rider]

Here is an overview I typed up for friends going to Jay for the first time. Much has been repeated above but hopefully you will find something useful:

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Jay Peak can be a confusing place for the first time visitor. Take the JP snow report with a grain of salt (though this year it seems a lot more open and up-front). I wholeheartedly agree with the suggestions to park at Stateside Lodge, though you should start training for the 52 steps.

Pro tip #1: be prepared for cold and wind. As mentioned several times, the Flyer chairlift is not nicknamed The Freezer for nothing. Best lift for avoiding wind is the Jet triple.

#2: wax your boards and sharpen your edges. there are some nice runs that end with long flat runouts (eg. Ullr's Dream, JFK) and the Taxi trail from Stateside back to Tramside. No matter how much snow they claim to get, there will always be some hardpack somewhere.

# 3: pay attention to turn-offs or you could end up at a different base lodge than you intended to.

#4: It is worth taking a ride on the Tram if it is sunny and not too windy (and crowded). The short hike to the summit gives an amazing view. On a clear day you can see Montreal. The Vermonter is the best run off the Tram if you are into groomers. Valhalla is a good (steep) glade off Vermonter. Green Beret is really fun in good conditions.

#5: any un-named patch of trees between trails is worth checking out if it looks skiable.

SBR's best fast cruiser trail picks:

off the Tram: Vermonter to Montrealer/Northway then to Stateside lodge by any number of trails. Angel's Wiggle to Lower Milk Run is a fun way to the Stateside lodge off the Northway.

off the Flyer chair: Northway to Goat (can be icy where it goes under the chair but usually improves after that). If going back to Stateside, take the Goat all the way ("Full Goat" in our family jargon). If going back to Tramside, my faves are Goat/Green Mtn Boys/Racer or Goat/Lower River Kwai/Interstate

Ullr's Dream is a great easy run (with a steep pitch near the top) if freshly groomed and not crowded. It can be the "full-on super G" if conditions are right. Take Kokomo to avoid the final flat stretches of Ullr's.

JFK is one of my favourite runs of all time. I'd call it an easy black diamond. A little hard to find and often a good bet for powder on the right day. A nice combo is the first pitch of JFK then duck into Lower Everglade at the bottom of the pitch (before it turns left and takes you to Ullr's).

Lower Everglade is a great glade, mellow aspect, pretty open, good snow.

off the Bonaventure chair:
- good warm-up run is Northway. Great expert run: Can-Am.
- the 720 park on Lower Can-Am is the BIG park if you are so inclined (may be still under construction at the moment).

off the Jet chair:
- Jet, Haines & Derick Hot-Shot. If you ski the Derick, cut over to Haines & Lower Jet to avoid the LONG run-out of the Willard. Easy way down, take the Montrealer.

Good glades to start with: Lower Everglade (off JFK); Buckaroo Banzai (off the Goat), Bonaventure Glade, Show-Off Glade; Buck Woods; Expo Glade.

More challenging glades: Beaver Pond; North Glade (steep but open - often overlooked by glade keeners), Canyonland (long and gets tracked out fast), Timbuktu (don't go too far right or you will be walking back); Hell's Woods (short & steep); Andre's Paradise is probably the nicest glade at Jay IMHO.

Valhalla is really nice when conditions are right.

Runs best avoided unless conditions are primo (just my opinion): Upper Milk Run; Tuckerman's; Northwest Passage; Poma Line.

Most challenging runs on the trail map, IMHO:
River Quai (upper part), Staircase; Upper Everglade: Vertigo; UN & Power Line (both great bump runs but endless); Deliverence; Green Beret, Kitzbuehel ("the Kitz" and the Upper Quai are great runs, probably two of my favorites. Both are totally old-school serious black diamonds, never groomed and there is no snowmaking. plus the fall line is totally off kilter.)

Apres ski: Go through Montgomery and in one stop you can: visit Don at FirstTrax, have a beer and a really good burger at the Snowshoe (good food also at The Belfry and Bernie's), buy groceries/booze & Vermont cheese at Sylvester's Market (excellent deli counter as well). If you want to buy VT souveniers and groceries in the other direction, go the other way down 242 towards Jay village and check out Jay Country Store.

Have fun!

SPAM: And of course, you can always read my blog for entertaining stories about skiing at JPR.

 

[Rutecki]

You can take a right down Northway but IMO it is not worth it since everything you can get going that way is accessible from Flyer.

Agreed, unless like yesterday the tram and flyer are closed, and then the tram opens before the flyer. We took the tram up, everyone went left, and we went right to hit Beaver Pond glades. We got that one run in by ourselves before the Flyer opened back up. On a windy day (typical at Jay), lift selection/management can be critical.

 

[Abubob]

Agreed, unless like yesterday the tram and flyer are closed, and then the tram opens before the flyer. We took the tram up, everyone went left, and we went right to hit Beaver Pond glades. We got that one run in by ourselves before the Flyer opened back up. On a windy day (typical at Jay), lift selection/management can be critical.

Did you wait at the base for one or the other to open? Personally I don't have that kind of patience. I would have taken the Metro as painfully slow as it is then head over to the Boni.

 

[dlague]

Agreed, unless like yesterday the tram and flyer are closed, and then the tram opens before the flyer. We took the tram up, everyone went left, and we went right to hit Beaver Pond glades. We got that one run in by ourselves before the Flyer opened back up. On a windy day (typical at Jay), lift selection/management can be critical.

Nice!

 

[dlague]

Here is an overview I typed up for friends going to Jay for the first time. Much has been repeated above but hopefully you will find something useful:

--------

Jay Peak can be a confusing place for the first time visitor. Take the JP snow report with a grain of salt (though this year it seems a lot more open and up-front). I wholeheartedly agree with the suggestions to park at Stateside Lodge, though you should start training for the 52 steps.

Pro tip #1: be prepared for cold and wind. As mentioned several times, the Flyer chairlift is not nicknamed The Freezer for nothing. Best lift for avoiding wind is the Jet triple.

#2: wax your boards and sharpen your edges. there are some nice runs that end with long flat runouts (eg. Ullr's Dream, JFK) and the Taxi trail from Stateside back to Tramside. No matter how much snow they claim to get, there will always be some hardpack somewhere.

# 3: pay attention to turn-offs or you could end up at a different base lodge than you intended to.

#4: It is worth taking a ride on the Tram if it is sunny and not too windy (and crowded). The short hike to the summit gives an amazing view. On a clear day you can see Montreal. The Vermonter is the best run off the Tram if you are into groomers. Valhalla is a good (steep) glade off Vermonter. Green Beret is really fun in good conditions.

#5: any un-named patch of trees between trails is worth checking out if it looks skiable.

SBR's best fast cruiser trail picks:

off the Tram: Vermonter to Montrealer/Northway then to Stateside lodge by any number of trails. Angel's Wiggle to Lower Milk Run is a fun way to the Stateside lodge off the Northway.

off the Flyer chair: Northway to Goat (can be icy where it goes under the chair but usually improves after that). If going back to Stateside, take the Goat all the way ("Full Goat" in our family jargon). If going back to Tramside, my faves are Goat/Green Mtn Boys/Racer or Goat/Lower River Kwai/Interstate

Ullr's Dream is a great easy run (with a steep pitch near the top) if freshly groomed and not crowded. It can be the "full-on super G" if conditions are right. Take Kokomo to avoid the final flat stretches of Ullr's.

JFK is one of my favourite runs of all time. I'd call it an easy black diamond. A little hard to find and often a good bet for powder on the right day. A nice combo is the first pitch of JFK then duck into Lower Everglade at the bottom of the pitch (before it turns left and takes you to Ullr's).

Lower Everglade is a great glade, mellow aspect, pretty open, good snow.

off the Bonaventure chair:
- good warm-up run is Northway. Great expert run: Can-Am.
- the 720 park on Lower Can-Am is the BIG park if you are so inclined (may be still under construction at the moment).

off the Jet chair:
- Jet, Haines & Derick Hot-Shot. If you ski the Derick, cut over to Haines & Lower Jet to avoid the LONG run-out of the Willard. Easy way down, take the Montrealer.

Good glades to start with: Lower Everglade (off JFK); Buckaroo Banzai (off the Goat), Bonaventure Glade, Show-Off Glade; Buck Woods; Expo Glade.

More challenging glades: Beaver Pond; North Glade (steep but open - often overlooked by glade keeners), Canyonland (long and gets tracked out fast), Timbuktu (don't go too far right or you will be walking back); Hell's Woods (short & steep); Andre's Paradise is probably the nicest glade at Jay IMHO.

Valhalla is really nice when conditions are right.

Runs best avoided unless conditions are primo (just my opinion): Upper Milk Run; Tuckerman's; Northwest Passage; Poma Line.

Most challenging runs on the trail map, IMHO:
River Quai (upper part), Staircase; Upper Everglade: Vertigo; UN & Power Line (both great bump runs but endless); Deliverence; Green Beret, Kitzbuehel ("the Kitz" and the Upper Quai are great runs, probably two of my favorites. Both are totally old-school serious black diamonds, never groomed and there is no snowmaking. plus the fall line is totally off kilter.)

Apres ski: Go through Montgomery and in one stop you can: visit Don at FirstTrax, have a beer and a really good burger at the Snowshoe (good food also at The Belfry and Bernie's), buy groceries/booze & Vermont cheese at Sylvester's Market (excellent deli counter as well). If you want to buy VT souveniers and groceries in the other direction, go the other way down 242 towards Jay village and check out Jay Country Store.

Have fun!

SPAM: And of course, you can always read my blog for entertaining stories about skiing at JPR.

Nice summary of everything mentioned and then some!

 

[Rutecki]

Did you wait at the base for one or the other to open? Personally I don't have that kind of patience. I would have taken the Metro as painfully slow as it is then head over to the Boni.

No way...no patience for that either. We took the Tram firs thing in the AM, then the Flyer, then they shut both, so we hit up the Boni and Jet for a bit. I asked ski patrol when I was getting on the Jet if either the Tram or Flyer were open again yet. He said the Tram was, so we headed back that way.