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Killington is going to open before Sunday River this season.

deadheadskier

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For trees, steeps. and out of bounds terrain, yes. Just talking about trails, it's probably a wash.

I'd put Sugarloaf way above Stowe when it comes to just trails. For that, Stowe probably isn't even in the top 5 for me.
 

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Timberline used to be a t-bar. It's too bad they took it out.

They whole mountain was tbars... i never saw it but I have seen so many pictures and maps... if it was still like that or if they made the lifts low like timberline then there would be no wind hold issues.....

I also head that Kingpine will be getting replaced by a... HIGH SPEED QUAD.... :) just Rumors now... but could be true....
 

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They whole mountain was tbars... i never saw it but I have seen so many pictures and maps... if it was still like that or if they made the lifts low like timberline then there would be no wind hold issues.....

I remember those days. But you can't have a functioning ski area with all those surface lifts anymore. People want their highspeed lifts. It would have been nice if they left the t-bar in where misery whip is and hadn't screwed up widow maker.
 

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I remember those days. But you can't have a functioning ski area with all those surface lifts anymore. People want their highspeed lifts. It would have been nice if they left the t-bar in where misery whip is and hadn't screwed up widow maker.

what do you mean by screwed up widowmaker?
 

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what do you mean by screwed up widowmaker?

It used to live up to it's name. It was narrow, twisty, and had a huge dip/drop-off that people would fly off the lip of, but you had to be ready or not jump too far because there was a little uphill section at the bottom of it. They filled that in or blasted it out at some point in the late 80's/early 90's.
 

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kind of like they did with "Narrow Gauge" I used to be scared going down the headwall now that they flattened it out or blasted it it is like any other trail... wide and boring... I would rather go down comp hill then gauge...
 

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kind of like they did with "Narrow Gauge" I used to be scared going down the headwall now that they flattened it out or blasted it it is like any other trail... wide and boring... I would rather go down comp hill then gauge...

Yeah, they keep making that one a little tamer every year. At least there are few old school trails left and well you really can't complain about all the glades. Those were virtually non-existent 20 (even 10) years ago.
 

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Ya. I started skiing glades 3 seasons ago and every since then I've been hooked. and glades got me into skiing more moguls now i love them all... you will rarely see me on a groomer during my ski day. I'm either on the front face (powder Keg, Ignitor, Bubblecuffer) The backside. or in the woods.... next year is gonna be a little different with teaching the little ones but I will get mine when I can.... I also love skiing west mountain/bucksaw area. peaceful and gets me to practice skiing switch :)
 

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how many days did you have though where lifts were affected by wind?

I'd have to imagine there's at least 20 days a season where a good amount of the lifts are shut down because of wind.

Mind you, I'm not dissing the Loaf. I like it WAY better than Killington

In its own way; I have to say there are days that I am thankful that there is a gondola at Killington; mainly on those bitterly cold days. Any other day that's good enough to be fully suited up in ski gear and not get cold even if I'm out there bell to bell is a day I don't care there's a gondola and it makes for a good place to eat lunch too. Sugarloaf is much more prone to wind though. But the distance makes a difference. There's no way a day tripper bus can get there and back to Boston in one day. That's why there's really not all that many buses that go to Sugarloaf; lower traffic=better snow=worse lift infrastructure and vice versa; It's all a tradeoff. True; there's days in which a lift breaks at the loaf (or goes on windhold) and you got a big line that results. There's some days I can choose two or rarely three different buses that are going to the same ski resort in one day; I end up picking the lowest bidder which is almost always Nacski which works for me. Jay Peak is a stretch to go to at that; it took a bus 3.5 hours each way to do that and its 10 minutes longer than Sunday River from Boston. But yes; Brackett Basin and all the goodies at Sugarloaf is something I'd wish I could experience more often; but $$ and time/distance doesn't make it happen that much; its hard to resist $71 a day all in including gas, lift ticket, and parking fee when it can be more expensive otherwise; plus I can cherrypick my days I go better. The only time I get to beat that is when I make my yearly trip to Wildcat. But I wouldn't be surprised if the buses go up with the year over year increase in gas prices (although this is at least narrowing and should continue in the coming weeks) and lift tickets are already starting to go up a bit; full priced adult lift ticket at Jay Peak will be $75; and everything else is pretty much a $6 increase across the board although incremental days remain the same so multiday tickets only have a $6 increase.

So yes; when you get down to the nitty gritty without regard to $$ or other external factors and just by judging the quality of the mountain; if its 15 degrees or less, I'd rather be at K; if its more, I'd rather be at the Loaf.
 
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What the hell is this, an essay exam?

How to Get On and Off a Chairlift

Before you get on the chairlift, make sure that you have all your equipment - poles, gloves, goggles, and hat. Make sure you lift ticket is visible.

Wait in the loading area, until it's your turn to board the chairlift. Hold both poles in one hand. Watch over your shoulder for the next chairlift to come. Sit on the chairlift just like you were sitting in a chair, use your free hand, if necessary, for balance and to hold on.

Keep your ski tips pointed up as the chairlift moves up.

Hope this is helpful. You are welcome.
 

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How to Get On and Off a Chairlift

Before you get on the chairlift, make sure that you have all your equipment - poles, gloves, goggles, and hat. Make sure you lift ticket is visible.

Wait in the loading area, until it's your turn to board the chairlift. Hold both poles in one hand. Watch over your shoulder for the next chairlift to come. Sit on the chairlift just like you were sitting in a chair, use your free hand, if necessary, for balance and to hold on.

Keep your ski tips pointed up as the chairlift moves up.

Hope this is helpful. You are welcome.

So what does this have to do with Killington or Sunday River opening first? :blink::dontknow:
 
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