Killington is going to open before Sunday River this season.

[Highway Star]

Did you have nancakes for breafist this morning?

I have never seen any ski area lay down a 15 foot base in 48 hours. If it were so easy as this, they'd do it on Superstar every spring.

Good thing you don't actually know what you're talking about. 80 snowguns running at 45gpm will produce 15 feet of snow on 4.2 acres of land in 48 hours (not accounting for extra wet snow, draining, etc).

 

[drjeff]

Good thing you don't actually know what you're talking about. 80 snowguns running at 45gpm will produce 15 feet of snow on 4.2 acres of land in 48 hours (not accounting for extra wet snow, draining, etc).

Gotta agree, from a mathematically possible perspective with HS here.

You'd need some 12" diameter water pipe if you're just making snow from 1 water line to do it, but at those numbers mentioned, 80 guns at 45gpm, you're looking at 3600gpm of water to "feed" those guns (and K can CERTAINLY pump that, and a bunch more. If you've got a 12" diameter pipe supplying a trail, that pipe can handle 4700gpm at a flow rate of 13.4 ft/sec, so you'd still have enough water volume and flow rate to supply the line of 80 guns.

Additionally, over the last few years, I think that it's safe to say that we've all seen 1st hand some of the BIG whales that many of the newer model air/water and fan guns can make on a couple of day run in good temperatures.

Is it possible, sure, the question is do they have the capacity to send that much water to that sized area with that many guns running to pull it off?

 

[Newpylong]

Throwing numbers out there doesn't make it reality.

Isn't Rime 8" on the water side? 8" steel pipe has a max flow rate of 1600 GPM. At 45 GPM per gun that's total of 35 guns on the one loop assuming enough velocity and no gravity loss. The East Fall loop uses the same feeder as Rime, so using it would split output between the two loops vs concentrating the 35 on Rime alone.

Not to mention if the wet bulb sucks they're probably going to be using the K guns which can use up to 400 cfm each and the Ratnik's use a ton too. Air would also be a limiting factor on running higher than that many in the same area.

You can send all the water and air in the world up the hill but concentrating it on one trail is another matter.

 

[Highway Star]

Throwing numbers out there doesn't make it reality.

Isn't Rime 8" on the water side? 8" steel pipe has a max flow rate of 1600 GPM. At 45 GPM per gun that's total of 35 guns on the one loop. The East Fall loop uses the same feeder as Rime, so using it would split output between the two loops vs concentrating the 35 on Rime alone.

Not to mention if the wet bulb sucks they're probably going to be using the K guns which can use up to 400 cfm each and the Ratnik's use a ton too. Air would also be a limiting factor on running higher than that many in the same area.

Wet bulb is below 25F for 48 hours. They are right next to a pump house and can run all those snowguns at the same time, from what I have seen.

 

[Newpylong]

25 is a pretty poor wet bulb, it will take a lot of air. They should be able to run that many guns if they can get enough air there, but no more.

The Glades booster will help gravity loss on the water side, but it won't allow for more water in the same pipe than physics allows.

It will just be cool to see them and Sunday River fire up if you ask me. They are both powerhouses in that department.

 

[Highway Star]

25 is a pretty poor wet bulb, it will take a lot of air. They should be able to run that many guns if they can get enough air there, but no more.

The Glades booster will help gravity loss on the water side, but it won't allow for more water in the same pipe than physics allows.

It will just be cool to see them and Sunday River fire up if you ask me. They are both powerhouses in that department.

This all becoming a moot point anyway, the temperature forecast has shifted, it now looks like they won't see snowmaking temps until 8pm on saturday night. So it looks like a stretch. Maybe a very thin 11am opening Sunday.

http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClic...09&textField2=-72.8175&site=all&unit=0&dd=&bw=

 

[Tin]

this all becoming a moot point anyway, the temperature forecast has shifted, it now looks like they won't see snowmaking temps until 8pm on saturday night. So it looks like a stretch. Maybe a very thin 11am opening sunday.

http://forecast.weather.gov/mapclic...09&textfield2=-72.8175&site=all&unit=0&dd=&bw=

You and K = FAIL!!!!!!!!

 

[Highway Star]

I chortled.

 

[Domeskier]

This sounds as reckless and irresponsible as trying to cover Superstar T2B by Thanksgiving.

 

[Tin]

I chortled.

You're a cheeky _unt mate.

 

[Sotto]

Has anyone looked at Woodbury's web camera lately?

 

[manhattanskier]

Killington is opening Sunday at noon! - Facebook page!

 

[canobie#1]

WooHoo!!!!!! The Beast is back!

 

[Tin]

HS and K still go down to Woodbury!

 

[Highway Star]

Looks like the temperature forecast has shifted yet again, it looks like they'll hit snowmaking temps around dawn on Saturday morning, and able to make snow pretty solidly until noon on Monday. Sunday looks like it's going to be pretty burly (for early season), with temps in the low 20's, overcast, and 15 mph winds.......burrrr. Monday should be nicer.

http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClic...09&textField2=-72.8175&site=all&unit=0&dd=&bw=

 

[yeggous]

Looks like the temperature forecast has shifted yet again, it looks like they'll hit snowmaking temps around dawn on Saturday morning, and able to make snow pretty solidly until noon on Monday. Sunday looks like it's going to be pretty burly (for early season), with temps in the low 20's, overcast, and 15 mph winds.......burrrr. Monday should be nicer.

http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClic...09&textField2=-72.8175&site=all&unit=0&dd=&bw=

Wet bulb is going to be really marginal on Saturday. They'll be blowing slush, but I expect they'll try.


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[dlague]

I love the start of this article about A Basin opening "With the East Coast ski season well underway"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

http://www.tetongravity.com/story/ski/a-basin-is-literally-opening-right-now

 

[skiur]

Well underway?? nobody on the east coast is open this weekend!

 

[machski]

Well underway?? nobody on the east coast is open this weekend!

Wrong, Sunday River is!

 

[thetrailboss]

Has anyone looked at Woodbury's web camera lately?

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That's an insane number of fan guns for a place like that!