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YES, for 2008 43% of my Subie deals were paid for in green backs---it's unreal.

I doubt those greenbacks came from savings accounts, I would say the vast majority were from "alternative methods of financing" such as Home Equity Loans and Credit Unions. Subie owners are creative.
 

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wow! incredible!! crisis? what crisis! time to raise the prices, i guess. ;-)

good to see upstaters are doing so well.....

I've found when it becomes a buyers market (last quarter of 08) the real buyers come out.


I doubt those greenbacks came from savings accounts, I would say the vast majority were from "alternative methods of financing" such as Home Equity Loans and Credit Unions. Subie owners are creative.

A small portion were--majority were "money market accounts"---you know the ones we all lost money in!!!!!!
 

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All I can say is WTF. That design is the probably the ugliest Subaru ever. Looks like an even uglier Camry.
My wife and I are major Subaru fans, we have two 2005 Subarus. A Legacy GT wagon 5MT and a WRX wagon. If this is the new design we'll probably just keep ours forever or get something else.

I think it's hot!!! Bout time Subie got some cool looking lines to them
 

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Okay, question. I believe I read somewhere on here that Subie's are prone to having either the distributor cap or head gasket blow near abouts 100K miles and that it's a fairly expensive fix.

The reason I ask is I have a 2004 Legacy Wagon, 4 cyl with 89K miles. Just want to know if this is a repair I can expect to have to make and if so the typical cost.
 

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Subies had h-gasket problems from 2000-2005. It's not too bad $$$$ wise to have fix--figure around 500ish.
 

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Subies had h-gasket problems from 2000-2005. It's not too bad $$$$ wise to have fix--figure around 500ish.
Maybe I overspent at a dealer or caught it late, but when mine went almost 2 years ago the repair cost over $2000. :-o

Had the gaskets replaced on my 98 Outback at around 120K miles, and I'm up to 165K miles now...so far so good.

Even with this problem, I've been quite happy with my Outback and would likely get another one.
 

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A lot has to do with the area you're in (labor rate) and exactly what was done. If you need new heads/shave heads, put new timing belt (good idea), new water pump (good idea) and all that. If you just need to have heads taken off and new gasket put on it's really not that expensive because it's basically all labor.
 

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All I can say is WTF. That design is the probably the ugliest Subaru ever. Looks like an even uglier Camry.
Oh man, you are right. Before I clicked I thought "it couldn't be that bad" but what an awful looking design. The proportions are just all messed up. Was thinking about a new Subbie for my next car two years down the road. Looks like I will be hoping for a new "last year's model" on the final production run of current generation. Did they at least manage to get the MPG to 30 on the new gen of the Legacy? Current version is just flirting in the upper 20s as I recall.
 

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$500 would be doable, when I start seeing repair bills over 2 grand I contemplate and most times get a new vehicle. I typically have car payments around $300, so that's seven months worth of payments. In the end it will be the companies decision as it's their car, but when it dies, it won't be replaced and I'll be back to using my own car and get a monthly stipend.
 

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No head gasket issues on my 2002 WRX, and it now has 270,000 on the clock.

I think I may be at the 7.8 year mark and will probably get another Subie (maybe another WRX or a Forrester), regardless of how bad the design has gotten on the exterior (and oh my have they gotten ugly). They start changing the innards, and I'm off to the Toyota dealership for a Venza.
 

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I have a question to Subaru owners. Have any of you owned an Outback / Forester with an automatic tranny and one with a 5 speed stick and can give some feedback if one is better than the other for winter driving? I am leaning towards an 09 Forester since I can get a stick & AWD and a sunroof. I have driven both the AT and stick, but on dry pavement.
 

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I have a question to Subaru owners. Have any of you owned an Outback / Forester with an automatic tranny and one with a 5 speed stick and can give some feedback if one is better than the other for winter driving? I am leaning towards an 09 Forester since I can get a stick & AWD and a sunroof. I have driven both the AT and stick, but on dry pavement.

Granted that I am biased.... I personally prefer MT in the winter. I can see its disadvantages potentially compared to an AT considering a newer driver, but I personally prefer a more direct connection with the road in slippery conditions. The greatest advantage of an MT (aside from its just makes driving more pleasurable as an activity) is the gas mileage increase.
 
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