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Lifts that need replacement

skiNEwhere

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If I had to guess it is to prevent kids from sliding out. I have no idea though. Those bars were all aftermarket. The first time I skied there in 2010 they did not have any safety bars.

Apparently that is what it's for. (Click back one page ;) )
 

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Out of the places I've been

Mount Snow - Sundance, Tumbleweed, Sunbrook
Stratton - Snow Bowl
Okemo - Green Ridge
Killington - Snowdon Quad
Jay - Bonaventure, Jet
Waterville - High Country
Loon - Gondola
Attitash - Summit
Sunday River - Tempest, Locke, Spruce

All 3 of those you mentioned for Mount Snow, plus one of the triples on the Northface are scheduled for replacement in their master plan
 

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They don't, which really sucks.

They should have replaced it with the HSQ that they bought for Bear Peak and moved the triple to BP. It's kind of overkill over there IMO. To add salt to the wound, they have that HSQ that goes like a 1/3 of the way up the mountain and services only a few trails (not even popular ones). That place is a complete cluster fuck.
 

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They should have replaced it with the HSQ that they bought for Bear Peak and moved the triple to BP. It's kind of overkill over there IMO. To add salt to the wound, they have that HSQ that goes like a 1/3 of the way up the mountain and services only a few trails (not even popular ones). That place is a complete cluster fuck.

I think at a minimum, if they don't want the summit getting too crowded since it only serves 2 blues, they could add a HSQ from the top of the flying
Yankee HSQ to the summit.
 

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+1.

Heavens Gate, Valley House, Sunny D, Village Double at Sugarbush.
Outpost Double at Pico
Snowdon Quad and Triple at Killington
Tempest Quad at Sunday River


Those are the immediate ones that come to mind for me....

valley house double and village double are on the docket to be replaced. I believe with a quad and a triple respectively. Expect both to happen within the next year or 2.
Don't think heavens gate needs to be replaced but we'll see how the refurbishment they did this summer works out. Sunny d is no big deal either way as it only serves the terrain park at mt Ellen.
 

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Vally house double is so overdue....particularly with the super bravo so spotty.....
 

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I'm torn on the Attitash triple. I dislike riding it but there's some fairly steep terrain that gets easily scraped off as it is.

A conveyor belt with a bump in speed might be a good compromise.
 

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Vally house double is so overdue....particularly with the super bravo so spotty.....

So true. Reliable (mechanically and wind wise), but decrepit and slow as all get all. The new quad will be a huge improvement. Can't come soon enough.
 

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The new quad will be a huge improvement. Can't come soon enough.

As long as they don't widen the crap out of the Mall it will be a huge improvement. I'm nervous about what happens with that trail. One of my favorites on the mountain. And truthfully, that rickety old lift kind of plays a part in the charm on the Mall. I recognize the need for an upgrade, but I'll miss the old school feel of the way it is today. Guess I better get my ass back there this season before the change happens.

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As long as they don't widen the crap out of the Mall it will be a huge improvement. I'm nervous about what happens with that trail. One of my favorites on the mountain. And truthfully, that rickety old lift kind of plays a part in the charm on the Mall. I recognize the need for an upgrade, but I'll miss the old school feel of the way it is today. Guess I better get my ass back there this season before the change happens.

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The chairs have to be a certain distance from the trees. The longer cross arms will obviously bring them closer. In case of emergency, ski patrol needs to be able to throw the evac line quickly over the haul rope without getting it stuck in the branches in the process, I'm sure there are fire considerations in case of a lightning strike as well.

Probably more of a technical answer than you were looking for, but the minimum distance from the trees is probably somewhere in here http://labor.vermont.gov/tramway/lift-inspection-guidelines/
 
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They should have replaced it with the HSQ that they bought for Bear Peak and moved the triple to BP. It's kind of overkill over there IMO. To add salt to the wound, they have that HSQ that goes like a 1/3 of the way up the mountain and services only a few trails (not even popular ones). That place is a complete cluster fuck.

I think a HSQ is completely necessary over on Bear Peak. It's a 1450 terrain pod with the best long blue square terrain at the ski area. Terrain for the average skier that really isn't available on Attitash proper except for Northwest Passage. I'm kind of surprised they haven't upgraded the snowmaking on Avenger on Bear. That's a huge acreage trail that could absorb a bunch of the crowds, but it's late to open due the old school guns on it.

A lot of people think the Flying Yankee is a bad lift. I disagree. It provides a high capacity lift out of the main lodge. It really can't realistically go higher up the mountain than where it goes. That's the challenge with Attitash proper. It's so steep in the middle, so there's no really good place for a lift to stop higher up than where the Yankee goes. Where that lift stops it provides access to low intermediate terrain (something unavailable anywhere further up the hill) access to actually popular lower mountain terrain in Spillway, Whitehorse, the terrain park, Moat, Grandstand....as well as access to both slopeside real estate locations on the hill.

I think at a minimum, if they don't want the summit getting too crowded since it only serves 2 blues, they could add a HSQ from the top of the flying
Yankee HSQ to the summit.

Not a lot of real estate at the terminus of the Flying Yankee to put a HSQ summit lift in from there to the summit. You'd have the expense of cutting a whole new liftline if the Triple was left in as well. Here's another idea though, that would be fairly cheap. Why not shorten the Top Notch Double and run it from the mid-station only to where it tops out? Eliminate the bottom portion of the lift all together. That lift would give you access to lap most of Northwest Passage, all of Upper Ptarmigan and Tightrope, plus enable you to ski all the trails off the Saco side. The ride would be pretty short too.

I'm torn on the Attitash triple. I dislike riding it but there's some fairly steep terrain that gets easily scraped off as it is.

A conveyor belt with a bump in speed might be a good compromise.

I'd be fine with a conveyor belt solution for the Triple to bring the ride time down by a few minutes. Apparently the lift can run at a faster line speed according to the answers from an AZ challenge now 10 years ago. http://www.alpinezone.com/skiing/ch...allenge-2004-sven-cole-of-attitash-bear-peak/ Conveyor technology didn't really exist back then. Also note they said back then they had long term plans of upgrading to high speed quad when they could add more trails from the top. That would be the big money plan but there's some terrain up there that's compelling if they ever went for the big dollar solution.

Seems to me they could implement the conveyor system to the triple, plus a shorter top notch double and resolve a lot of the upper mountain access issues at Attitash for fairly short money in comparison to a base to summit HSQ.
 

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The lifts at Magic, Black Mountain chairs - any of them! Tomcat triple at Wildcat, Pats Peak chair lifts.


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Not sure if it's been mentioned but would love to see the cabriolet at Mountain Creek go the way of the do-do bird.
 

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All 3 of those you mentioned for Mount Snow, plus one of the triples on the Northface are scheduled for replacement in their master plan

Jeff I haven't see anything on Sundance or a North Face replacement. Can you expand on these?

I have seen the Tumbleweed move to a Quad (with lowering of the bottom terminal) and the Sunbrook replacement in the Master plan.
 
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