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Mogul Tips?

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I'm determined to learn to ski moguls better this year :eek:.

Does anyone have any tips that will help?
 
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Keep your hands forward. Don't let your poles drag behind you. You should always have your hands within your peripheral vision and plant your pole on the upcoming bump.

However, you should not be looking at the next bump. You should be looking at the two or three bumps ahead of you; i.e. if you're approaching bump A, you should be concentrating on bumps B & C. :idea:

Keep your head up and try to stay confident and focused. Don't be afraid of going too fast. You will reach a maximum velocity. :eek: It just takes a lot of practice before you can reach that speed and still feel comfortable and in control. Hope this helps. :D
 
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moguls

remember, too, to keep your shoulders and your upper body always facing downhill for extra balance
 
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I second that...

I hear you loud and clear. I sure wish I could ski a mogul run with the grace that I ski a green trail.

I had a confidence booster two years ago when a skied little headwall at Tucks. Its was all moguled up, about 1 - 2 feet high. It was not graceful but I made it down without incidence.

Good Luck
 
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cgulla

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I third that...

I was having trouble with Snowbird's bump run Gadzooks this season. As I struggled down, there was an instructor who had stopped on the run, waiting for his student. I asked him for a free tip. He thought for a second, then told me to look further down the hill. I kind of thought that was just his canned response to slackers looking for free advice, but it sure did work! I ended up looking maybe 2-4 turns ahead, and it made a huge difference. I think it's because your body subconsciously makes tiny adjustments during your current turn based on what your eyes see a couple of turns ahead, preparing you for what's coming.

My bump skiing improved a lot, and I felt that I had really taken it up a notch just with that one little tip.

Good luck!
 

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Thought I'd top this thread to get people thinking about the upcoming season. I'm drawn to moguls even though I still struggle a bit. Any other tips?
 
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The "Core" of Bump Skiing

I tried them for the first time last season. Surprisingly, Though far from being a expert, I was not as horrible as I thought I would be, given that I'm only an intermediate skier. My guess is core stability and strength integrated with balance has a lot to do with it. Start doing your ab curls on a stability ball, and your squats on a bosu, wobble board or dyna disc.

One more thing: Pick your line before you start and commit to it. Don't stop in the middle and "shop for bumps"! Establishing a rhythm is crucial. Also, don't expect it to feel like groomed skiing. Bump skiing is more about transitional balance than static balance.

WHEW!! I never thought I would be the one to give someone advice about bumps! :oops:
 

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Re: The "Core" of Bump Skiing

Lisamarie said:
One more thing: Pick your line before you start and commit to it. Don't stop in the middle and "shop for bumps"! Establishing a rhythm is crucial.
I like this advice. This is probably one of my biggest problems. I'll get winded or frustrated and pick my way to the top of a bump and then find a line of 7 or 8 more bumps. I'll [maybe] hit those, then stop again and start over. Consistent rhythm is really a key. I should put together a little "cheat sheet" with these tips to take with me... ;)

Keep 'em coming!
 

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definitely good advice so far. I'm slowly getting better on the bumps as well, but that only came through a small confidence booster during a women's clinic at Smuggs - almost every resort offers intermediate/advanced skiers lessons specifically to get over that hump and learn moguls/tree skiing/steeps -take one or two- they are well worth it!

just to hear someone else tell you what you're doing is good or a few tips here and there can really help, not to mention the fact they'll FORCE you out of your comfort zone.
 

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don't stand at the top of the bump run too long, you psych yourself out. once you see the line you want, just do it. i used to psych myself out looking too far down the line and watching others, trying to find that "perfect" line. just throw yourself down the hill.

literally, throw yourself down the hill. don't lean back or your done. get those hands out as far in front as possible, reach that pole for the next bump, and try to keep the fronts of you skis on the snow as much as possible.

control is key. going fast outta control is easy, but doing things slowly is hard at first, but builds control. you'll learn how best to dance your feet around the bumps but slowly controling them and focusing on small adjustments.

go with the natural flow and rhythm. if you get outta rhythm, stop and recollect yourself, but don't stop too long, just keep hacking away. ski the bumps often... the more you do it, the better you get.

most important thing i ever did: become a student of the bumps. watch other people. study what works, what looks good, what doesn't work, and apply it to your own skiing.
 

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Great stuff! I can't wait to get out there!
 
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Lisamarie

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Learning Bumps

I learned how to ski them at the Epicski Academy out in Utah. This year, they are doing a tune up at Stowe on Dec. 13 and 14. They have some great instructors, like Stu Cmpbell, who writes for Ski magazine. A few of the pros from Colorado are flying out to teach. If the weather cooperates, this may be a great place to brush up your bump technique.
 
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My mogul tip: Don't do moguls!

Seriously, I've skied for a while and I like groomed runs because I like to carve and go fast mostly. But I've also done moguls, never as expertly as I'd like.

My problems are for the most part... A, this is very physically demanding if you're not very very good at it. And even if you are I suspect it is still demanding, maybe more so depending on how relatively agressive you get.

B, i've thought ahead to other bumps and picked my line, tried the tops of the bumps whatever. The biggest thing that usually gets me on bumps is I end up going too fast. I've not figured out a good speed control mechanisim. I usually get going a little faster than I want to go and attempt to correct but hit something wrong, stop thinking about my line and get way way out of balance. Which can be painful on moguls.

So how you do you control your speed on moguls is my question? Ride the depressions more somehow?
 

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I've found to be able to ski moguls well (I still don't, but I'm improving) you need to let yourself go a bit beyond what's comfortable in terms of speed. I think if you concentrate too much on controlling speed, you won't get into the rhythm necessary to ski them correctly. I've found that skiing less steep moguls fields is a huge confidence boost as you can let yourself get up to that critical speed without freaking out too much. That's why I love moguls so much; it's as much mental as it is physical.

Exhibition at Mount Snow is a blue they let bump up about half way down (once you pass the Link). It's a great intermediate run for practicing bumps. Lower Northstar at Loon is similar. Anyone know of other good intermediate, or at least less steep, bump runs at Northeast resorts?
 

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ragged has some not so steep bumps. when they let rocket at cannon grow bumps on the right side, that's nice. wildcat has some bumps that aren't too steep either.

this is a very big problem in terms of learning bumps. you learn to ski groomers on green and blues. but most bump runs are steep and diamond status even without the bumps. i actually really like a nice blue square bumper.

controling speed: just like you would control speed on the groomers. the more you turn, the slower you go. if you watch the world cup or olympic bumpers, their skis are pointed nearly straight down the fall line the whole time. get your skis turned a bit more against the fall line and don't loose control. it's not speed that hurts you in the bumps, it's not being able to make a controled turn and feel your skis getting ahead of you. hard to describe i guess, but take a lesson and they'll show you on the hill. keep your shoulders squared to the fall line, keep your skis on the snow, and make a long balanced turn.

in regards to A)... what's wrong about doing something that's physically demanding? my personal goal as a skier is to eventually be able to ski anything anywhere anytime with ease. i don't like seeing a trail on skis that i can't do because i'm not good enough. skiing bumps even if you're good is definitely a lot more demanding than skiing groomers. but (coming from an ex-racer that never used to ski bumps) despite the more demand, i find being able to ski anything more rewarding. there's not a lot of challenge in skiing groomers.
 

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1. let the bump push you knee up-absorbtion
2,push your knees down on the backside of the bump-exstension
3. keep you feet, waist, and shoulders alined- foot containment
4.turn with your knees, not hips- knee angle
5. let your uphill foot lead the turn-lead change
6. keep your hands driving down the hill- pole position
7. pick your line, easy or hard- tactics
8. pressure your downhill ski- weight transfer

you can watch these great tip videos on rsn-watch it-mogul logic

see you on AVALANCHE
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I put together this list off the top of my head for intermediate bump runs (or blacks that are not that steep):

Exhibition at Mount Snow (below Link)
Lower Northstar at Loon
Rolling Bear at Loon
North Glade at Jiminy Peak (right side)
Upper and Lower Fox at Jiminy Peak (right side)
Needle's Eye at Killington (left side)
Downspout at Ski Butternut
Catamount at Catamount

Any others?
 
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