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2Planker

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I agree... as a 25 year certified NSPP patroller (and trainer) some of those guys are just plain jackasses...

BUT, you guys do have to realize that being in control of yourself doesn't always mean that you aren't endangering others. Most Mts have designated "Slow Zones" where trails merge or cross. Just like driving, just because you can drive OK at 65mph, doesn't mean you can go that fast everywhere.

I HATE playing cop, but it's part of the job. Always point out what a great skier they are, but make them realize that most out there are not at their level. Everyone gets a warning, and if you get caught again doing the same stupid thing - then you're probably done for the day (or longer if your a pass holder)....

I've seen many skiers/riders critically injured, due to someone else's recklessness.

Attitude will get you nowhere, and w/ 75+ patrollers on the hill you probably won't outrun the radios.

Ski safe, and remember most of us are out there to help, not hinder....
 

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I think SR has something good going, instead of SLOW signs, it says go with the flow.

SLOW means different things to different people, especially when you factor in skill level.

IMO, Go with the Flow makes much more sense because my slow is not the same slow as someone who skis 2-4x a year, or is fairly new to skiing.

Just my opinion.
 

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I agree... as a 25 year certified NSPP patroller (and trainer) some of those guys are just plain jackasses...

BUT, you guys do have to realize that being in control of yourself doesn't always mean that you aren't endangering others. Most Mts have designated "Slow Zones" where trails merge or cross. Just like driving, just because you can drive OK at 65mph, doesn't mean you can go that fast everywhere.

I HATE playing cop, but it's part of the job. Always point out what a great skier they are, but make them realize that most out there are not at their level. Everyone gets a warning, and if you get caught again doing the same stupid thing - then you're probably done for the day (or longer if your a pass holder)....

I've seen many skiers/riders critically injured, due to someone else's recklessness.

Attitude will get you nowhere, and w/ 75+ patrollers on the hill you probably won't outrun the radios.

Ski safe, and remember most of us are out there to help, not hinder....


I realize all that, MOST ski patrol is very helpful, and as I said, I've never had an issue anywhere. Just seemed like a lot of the Blue guys were dicks. Maybe because they're stuck on a shitty hill cleaning up the mess after gaper wrecks and blowing whistles at people who can't ski. Or maybe they're just television tough guys, putting on the act for the cameras.

I think they're just dicks though.
 

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SR won awards for it's "Go With The Flow" campaign when it was launched 3 years ago.

That's the intention -- merge, stay in control, speed check, then kick on the AfterBurners when the coast is clear....
 

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I agree... as a 25 year certified NSPP patroller (and trainer) some of those guys are just plain jackasses...

Now, me, I'm just a basic patroller. I have no need to go on to Senior, let along Certified. I have been patrolling, and instructing for 15 seasons. 2P: Do you have a problem with their portrail of treatment/evaluation of candidates? I certainly do. Giving evaluation in front of peers? Only negative feedback? And NSP gave their approval? I guess anything for a revenue source.
 

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Now, me, I'm just a basic patroller. I have no need to go on to Senior, let along Certified. I have been patrolling, and instructing for 15 seasons. 2P: Do you have a problem with their portrail of treatment/evaluation of candidates? I certainly do. Giving evaluation in front of peers? Only negative feedback? And NSP gave their approval? I guess anything for a revenue source.

Absolutely ! A good Patrol Instructor never reams someone out in full view of others.... You take it back to the top shack, or on the lift, and always tell them what they did right (positive reinforcement fist) then tell them what you'd do differently, Not - what they did wrong. It could be that that's the way they've always do it there, or just that one patroller style.... Myself -- I;m not a big fan of the show, except that it does point out to the average Joe, what we do, in addition to what they see superficially,



A candidates year can truly make or break a good patroller...
 

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Have you hugged a ski patroller today?????

I haven't read this thread, but after watching a few episodes featuring Blue, I'd just have to say it comes off as the scariest place on Earth and why the Hell would anyone dare to Touch the Sky? Jeez, they find the guy who did a hit and run and all they did was escort him out? Cripes, they arrested two kids for not having tickets, but don't even get the name of the guy who nailed that chick and left her in a crater? And it took them hours to find an unconscious girl right along a slope, despite her BF telling them almost exactly where he lost sight of her? And if anyone dares to get on Blue lift, there's a good chance you'll have to wrap a rope around yourself and be lowered down? F*ck, I've been skiing in the Poconos since the '70s and haven't had to be taken off a lift, yet it jut happened to occur when there was a film crew?

GSS, did you know Blue was so dangerous? Jeez, even bloody noses seem to bleed more there.
 

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Ski9, Blue mountain is not that bad, alot of OVER reaction and OVER dramatization. My gf's friend and ex went to Blue with his gf. Her first day skiing, fell... All of the sudden, 10 patrollers or so come over for assistance... insisted she go to hospital. Their biggest thing... "Can you please sign this waiver to appear on SkiPatrol." They said no, as she was not a citizen in this country.

Blue is famous now.. hehe, look at their website, featuring ski patrol.

And to a previous poster about outrunning patrollers... a quote from my camaro days...

"You can outrun a Crown Vic, but you can't outrun a Motorola"
 

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Ski9, Blue mountain is not that bad, alot of OVER reaction and OVER dramatization. My gf's friend and ex went to Blue with his gf. Her first day skiing, fell... All of the sudden, 10 patrollers or so come over for assistance... insisted she go to hospital. Their biggest thing... "Can you please sign this waiver to appear on SkiPatrol." They said no, as she was not a citizen in this country.

Blue is famous now.. hehe, look at their website, featuring ski patrol.

And to a previous poster about outrunning patrollers... a quote from my camaro days...

"You can outrun a Crown Vic, but you can't outrun a Motorola"

Ha, I've skied Blue for years...some of ASRA's best races were held there and I go down and slum with GSS every once in a while. I'm just saying that the show---IMO---made it look REALLY bad.
 

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Was watching this tonight, and they had one of those multiple choice going into the commercial break questions which asked which State had the most ski areas. The answer they gave was NY. I find that a little hard to believe.
The best source to answer this question is SNOWCOUNTRY.COM SnowCountry is where ALL resorts post their daily ski conditions. All other news sources and internet web pages then pull the data from SnowCountry. As you can see the list of NY skis areas is not even close to 50 anymore. Check out the NY NELSAP list .

The fact is ski areas are eating their own. Brodie Mountain was purchased by Jimney Peak. Jimney Peak did no infrastructure upgrades and then sold it to Condo developer with the stipulation it COULD NEVER BE opened to public as a ski area. Jimney Peak and Brodie were very close to each other.
 
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It seems to me that the patrollers at Blue are not very good skiers as a whole. I watched the episode that all of them were taking the last run together. There were quite a few that were no better than an intermediate level.
 
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It seems to me that the patrollers at Blue are not very good skiers as a whole. I watched the episode that all of them were taking the last run together. There were quite a few that were no better than an intermediate level.

100 percent corrent..alot of them do the Pocono shuffle where they skid their turns..that's fine for hacking around but to pull a tobaggon on icy terrain..you want a patroller with some agility and ability..When Atomic Skier broke his femur last year on Challenge..the patrollers were incredible professional and got him in a sled and off the mountain. There was nothing I could do..I just brought his skis to the patrol shack..but I skied extra cautious with a tail between my legs the rest of my session..
 

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FYI for everyone....
It was an observation about the skiing technique only. I am not trying to put them down as patrollers. No slams please.
 
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