Nice try Killington...

[vdk03]

Don't think this is true, at least not in Burlington. I knew plenty of people in college who received open container violations when stepping off their front porch onto the sidewalk with a beer in their hand.

It depends on the town you are in. I know that the town of castleton does not have an open container law and I think that Brattleboro is the same, not sure if there are any others.

I'm not positive but I dont think you can still drive with an open container here in CO. In Montana they used to have what was called the working man's law which allowed you to drink while driving as long as you were under .08. Unfortunately they did away with the law a few years ago.

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[deadheadskier]

The Colorado law was specific to Pitkin County back then.

 

[vonski]

CT

In CT the passenger can still have an open container. Tried to kill that a year or two ago, but it died in the house or senate. So, as long as two in the car and sharing the beer all good. LMAO!!! at least in CT.

 

[vdk03]

I'll have to look into this, we will be over there in September for the ragner relay race and it might be a good thing to know.:beer:

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[steamboat1]

I can bring my own cooler full of refreshments to K no problem.

Works for me.

 

[drjeff]

Yup, we've become a society where it seems like 90% of the laws are made to keep/prevent/protect the 10% of society that doesn't know enough too/won't act in a responsible way that 90% of society does already without having to have it legislated :smash: The problem is that one CAN'T legislate common sense

 

[Geoff]

Don't think this is true, at least not in Burlington. I knew plenty of people in college who received open container violations when stepping off their front porch onto the sidewalk with a beer in their hand.

I've been through the Vermont statutes with a fine-tooth comb back when Killington was lying to their customers about state law and the Bear Mountain Mogul Challenge. Vermont does not have an open container law other than for automobiles. Liquor licenses require that you drink on-premise. If you own the land, on-premise could be 1000 acres. Burlington has always had a municipal ordinance against drinking in public. They could cite you back in the 1970's when I went to school there. At the time, it was mostly enforced to stop people from leaving frat parties with a 20 oz plastic cup.

 

[Geoff]

I can bring my own cooler full of refreshments to K no problem.

Works for me.

Technically, Killington owns all the parking lots other than about 1/3 of the Bear lot. They could choose to prevent everybody from drinking in their parking lots. On the leased state forest land, they can't do a thing.

 

[deadheadskier]

So, what you're saying is; instead of buying a $6 Long Trail draught and sitting at the umbrella bars, buy a $7 six pack of Long Trail on the way to the mountain and enjoy your beers and the music on the lawn hassle free?

 

[AdironRider]

So, what you're saying is; instead of buying a $6 Long Trail draught and sitting at the umbrella bars, buy a $7 six pack of Long Trail on the way to the mountain and enjoy your beers and the music on the lawn hassle free?

Seriously. How is this a big deal? This is no different from any other venue where alcohol is served in a massive group setting.

Frankly, this is a perfect example how Killington's clientel are one of its largest problems.

They could give free skiing for a year and Killington regulars would just bitch about the crowds.

 

[justjen]

Where did they have the stage set up? I've been to moe.down twice and was able to watch the show from the deck. True, it was rather far from the stage, but you could see it and hear perfectly fine. Don't get me wrong, I agree that the rule is silly. Let me know when they open a ski resort in New Orleans...

 

[RootDKJ]

So, what you're saying is; instead of buying a $6 Long Trail draught and sitting at the umbrella bars, buy a $7 six pack of Long Trail on the way to the mountain and enjoy your beers and the music on the lawn hassle free?

If I had known, that's exactly what I would have done. I figured since Killington was having a free concert, and I wasn't looking to get very drunk, I'd just enjoy one at my seat while throwing them a few dollars in thanks. Lesson learned.

 

[Geoff]

Seriously. How is this a big deal? This is no different from any other venue where alcohol is served in a massive group setting.

Frankly, this is a perfect example how Killington's clientel are one of its largest problems.

They could give free skiing for a year and Killington regulars would just bitch about the crowds.

Indeed. If it wouldn't cause them big fines and the risk that the Vermont Dept of Liquor Control would yank their license, I'm sure Killington would be delighted to sell you a beer in the umbrella bar and have you walk over to listen to music. It's the way the state liquor laws are written and the way Killington is singled out for enforcement that causes the problem. The town would be delighted if they could find a way to keep the State Police and the liquor guys from hassling the tourists and the local businesses.

I certainly bitch about Killington Resort perceived management mistakes as much as the next guy but this ain't one of 'em.

 

[deadheadskier]

Here's a question. How come people could bring beers onto the concert field at K peak, but can no longer do so over at Bear? Does Killington own the land the BMMC is held on where the tailgating used to occur?

 

[Geoff]

Here's a question. How come people could bring beers onto the concert field at K peak, but can no longer do so over at Bear? Does Killington own the land the BMMC is held on where the tailgating used to occur?

Legally, Killington could not stop people from bringing alcohol onto the snow at Bear. It's leased state land. They do own most of the parking lot and were within their rights to search cars as they entered the lot. The property line is roughly at the snowmaking pond so the lodge and the slopeside lots & Devils Fiddle upper lots are all on leased state land.

They had rent-a-cops stopping people for the last two years of the Bear Mogul Challenge. If somebody had wanted to challenge it in court, Killington couldn't have enforced the "no booze on the snow" policy. They don't have an exclusive lease on the land. If you want to have a picnic on state land and suck down a 6-pack of beer and aren't interfering with the principal use of the land, you are entitled to do so. They're not going to risk the false arrest lawsuit and related bad publicity if somebody told the rent-a-cops to piss off and asserted their rights on public land to BYOB but nobody I know of has enough time on their hands to deal with the court time. There were state police up on the snow and they weren't doing anything about people drinking during the combined moe. concert and mogul challenge.