Okemo Tops The List

[gmcunni]

The story ive heard from well connected Okemo passholders is that it has fewer chairs on the line than Northstar

ah, i see.

 

[SIKSKIER]

The old chair moved 2900/hr.Based on the stats they show for the new chair...113 chairs..6.4 minute ride....6 people..I calculate over 3100/hr.

 

[drjeff]

replace quad with 6 pack doesn't increase uphill capacity?

The story ive heard from well connected Okemo passholders is that it has fewer chairs on the line than Northstar

When Mount Snow installed the Bluebird, they chose to go with 9 second spacing (instead of the usual 6 second spacing) between chairs as a way to help get 6 people from the queue gates to the load line in a more predictable fashion. Not sure what type of spacing Okemo went with. Sometimes there's also the reality of just how many people an area WANTS to deposit in a certain portion of the mountain and as such they much choose to "limit" the capacity of a lift in an effort to have the greater density of people in a lift queue are rather than an increased density of people on a trail

 

[xwhaler]

I've heard that as well abt Okemo's new lift in terms of limiting the # of bodies in 1 area.
The area up there at the unload is pretty congested as it is with the lodge right there and Green Ridge also unloading. Not to mention folks coming down off the true peak via Buckhorn.
Last Saturday it was human slalom/parking lot skiing and you had to keep your head on a swivel and folks were going in all sorts of directions.

 

[C-Rex]

I would to see a lift up northwest passage to upper exhibition or up JFK. with a chair up from there following the flyer but up to the top.

+1 Excellent ideas!

 

[marinamoreira]

That's interesting, when I started reading this thread I was thinking that everybody would be happier with faster lifts. But "parking lot skiing" does sound pretty bad.
I went to Okemo last year and I don't remember having any kind of trouble -- not too busy, not too slow...
I hope it will be fine again this year!

 

[xwhaler]

That's interesting, when I started reading this thread I was thinking that everybody would be happier with faster lifts. But "parking lot skiing" does sound pretty bad.
I went to Okemo last year and I don't remember having any kind of trouble -- not too busy, not too slow...
I hope it will be fine again this year!

It was ski on every lift but the new Sunburst 6 which is to be expected. My comment abt parking lot skiing was only in reference to the very top where the unload is....If Okemo didn't maximize the uphill capacity of the new chair because they were concerned with trail congestion at the top I can see why as that area already is very congested.

 

[marinamoreira]

I see your point

 

[Smellytele]

It was ski on every lift but the new Sunburst 6 which is to be expected. My comment abt parking lot skiing was only in reference to the very top where the unload is....If Okemo didn't maximize the uphill capacity of the new chair because they were concerned with trail congestion at the top I can see why as that area already is very congested.

So if they are not gaining uphill capacity, the only benefit is PR for the mtn, right?

 

[Smellytele]

The old chair moved 2900/hr.Based on the stats they show for the new chair...113 chairs..6.4 minute ride....6 people..I calculate over 3100/hr.

good line management is key to the gaining of uphill capacity - how many times will the chair go up with out six people?

 

[gmcunni]

My comment abt parking lot skiing was only in reference to the very top where the unload is....

mt snow is like this IMHO. two lifts drop off very close with one (bubble) facing the other. on a busy day it is jam packed up there.

 

[xwhaler]

So if they are not gaining uphill capacity, the only benefit is PR for the mtn, right?

That and I think the greater benefit of the new lift is that it allowed them to replace the very slow Sunbowl quad at Mt Sunapee (which they manage)
Sort of like getting 2 lifts for the price of 1 in a way.....that sun bowl area is some decent cruising terrain but it is usually empty b/c of how slow the chair is. This caused massive lines at the summit HSQ.

 

[deadheadskier]

If they aren't gaining uphill capacity it seems like a crazy amount of money for PR and to move a used lift. Wonder why they didn't just buy a new lift for Sunapee and call it a day.

One bad thing for Sunapee is I heard they were going to replace the North Peak chair with the old slow Sunbowl chair. That sucks

 

[xwhaler]

One bad thing for Sunapee is I heard they were going to replace the North Peak chair with the old slow Sunbowl chair. That sucks

+1 I don't understand this at all either. Would be better saving the slow sunbowl for a transfer lift if and when they build condos on the west side. North Peak Triple is fine as it is

 

[Smellytele]

If they aren't gaining uphill capacity it seems like a crazy amount of money for PR and to move a used lift. Wonder why they didn't just buy a new lift for Sunapee and call it a day.

One bad thing for Sunapee is I heard they were going to replace the North Peak chair with the old slow Sunbowl chair. That sucks

well the "old slow" Sunbowl chair was better than the double that used to be there when the state ran it. That thing was broken down more often than it was running.

 

[deadheadskier]

I remember that chair. I guess I just like the North Peak chair as is and wouldn't view replacing it with that Quad as an improvement.

 

[dlague]

I remember that chair. I guess I just like the North Peak chair as is and wouldn't view replacing it with that Quad as an improvement.

Quad sounds better than triple, I guess! Funny thing is, the half dozen times I have skied there, I really did not uses that lift very often. In fact, not remembering riding it at all.

 

[deadheadskier]

Quad sounds better than triple, I guess! Funny thing is, the half dozen times I have skied there, I really did not uses that lift very often. In fact, not remembering riding it at all.

90% of my skiing at Sunapee is off North Peak triple. If I'm skiing Sunapee, I'm there to lap bumps on Goose.

 

[HD333]

good line management is key to the gaining of uphill capacity - how many times will the chair go up with out six people?

First day I saw a lot of 5 people to a chair. I am sure they will iron out the line management and get 6 to a chair whenever possible.

Later in the day it seemed to flow better with the help of the traffic cops pairing people up.

I'll lap the new lift early am until crowds show up the probably not ride it again until the end of the day, that was my mo with NStar, I don't see the fancy new lift changing that.


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[drjeff]

First day I saw a lot of 5 people to a chair. I am sure they will iron out the line management and get 6 to a chair whenever possible.

Later in the day it seemed to flow better with the help of the traffic cops pairing people up.

I'll lap the new lift early am until crowds show up the probably not ride it again until the end of the day, that was my mo with NStar, I don't see the fancy new lift changing that.


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In all honesty it took Mount Snow a solid 1/2 season, and multiple queue lane pattern trials and queue lane staffing set ups to come up with their current set up which seems to work decently - the "wildcard" is always will a fully paired up 6 stay paired up until they're standing on the load line? There was (and still is at times) some either purposeful holding back (anti social or "light 'em up" people usually) or even some stop and stare people upon seeing a bubble lift up close for the 1st time or 2